[PC-NCSG] NCPH Board seat 14 election - results second round
marie-laure Lemineur
mllemineur
Mon Apr 21 09:22:36 EEST 2014
Hi,
I know I am copied, but a silly question just to be sure, I am suppose to
be on this call or just the GNSO councillors and Rafik and Maria as policy
Chair ? Just for clarification.
...Not going to Brazil thus I am available all week basically..
best,
ml
On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I goy finally email from Kristina, she was asking if CSG and NCSG need
> confcall next week to discuss . since many of us will be in netmundial, it
> may be complicated. so please let me if you are ok or not to have such
> call. if we have such call, I think that is better to let them know about
> the compromise there.
> Kristina and me need to contact Jonathan too about the result , checking
> with John Jeffrey (the ICANN legal counsel)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2014-04-19 1:50 GMT+09:00 Magaly Pazello <magaly.pazello at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi!
>> It is my understand too, I mean what Maria explained and Rafik
>> observations about the CSG reactions.
>> Thank you our brave Avri!
>>
>> For whom is coming to NM have a smooth trip to S?o Paulo. And at the
>> airports take care with ATM machines as it is a paradise of credit/bank
>> account card fraud!
>>
>> Magaly
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maria,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the summary,
>>> it is when we have deadlock that we can propose the compromise and
>>> having the ability to do so. and the only way to reach deadlock is at 3rd
>>> and final round .
>>> yes , we can follow the proposal: writing to the NCPH list to initiate
>>> the discussion regarding compromise candidates. and yes we cannot predict
>>> CSG reactions and we should be ready for that.
>>> I already indicated quickly to Kristina when I received the results that
>>> we should discuss but no reply yet. I think that is easter holidays this
>>> weekend and probably won't get answer quickly ( in addition to those who
>>> are travelling to Sao Paulo soon).
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-18 0:57 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi Marie Laure et al,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, just to be clear, we'd agreed in Singapore to let the thing go to
>>>> three rounds and if it was still deadlocked,i.e. an election clearly wasn't
>>>> going to yield a winning candidate, that NCSG would propose Sam to the CSG
>>>> as a compromise candidate both sides of the NCPH could agree on. (at least
>>>> we in the NCSG agree he would be a good candidate, and we hope the CSG will
>>>> agree, too) We didn't want to put Sam up against BIll in a vote, but rather
>>>> in the discussions we anticipated might ensue after the vote proved
>>>> inconclusive.
>>>>
>>>> So I think there should be no scope for any disappointment just yet -
>>>> apart from the obvious disappointment that the NCSG's candidate didn't win
>>>> outright in three rounds of voting.
>>>>
>>>> Now we need to start the process of interacting with the CSG on a
>>>> compromise person to be agreed on by both sides of the NCPH, and we all
>>>> stand behind Sam as that person.
>>>>
>>>> From here on in, we can't predict what the CSG will propose or how they
>>>> will react, so we will have to work very closely across the NCSG to make
>>>> sure we're all happy.
>>>>
>>>> Let's be clear about precisely how we will take the next step. I think
>>>> we should write to the NCPH list and say basically 'there's no clear
>>>> outcome in the election, so shall we discuss compromise candidates?' and
>>>> if/when they agree, say we propose Sam.
>>>>
>>>> How does that sound as a next step?
>>>>
>>>> Maria
>>>>
>>>> p.s. Thank you very, very much, Avri, for standing in the election on
>>>> behalf of the NCSG. It was fantastic that you secured the NCA vote, and a
>>>> shame the ISPs didn't come through. Tant pis!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 April 2014 16:39, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> While I disagree with your interpretation about what was agreed to, I
>>>>> appreciate you giving me the chance. And I appreciate the fact that
>>>>> all
>>>>> of the votes held and I was able to at least get the majority vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes now is the time to propose Sam as the compromise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means he replaces _both_ BillG and me and become a sole candidate
>>>>> in a election between Sam and none of the above.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is what I think we agreed to. And I am pretty sure the record
>>>>> shows that.
>>>>>
>>>>> avri
>>>>>
>>>>> On 17-Apr-14 11:13, Marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>>>>> > Dear NCSG-PC members,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The results of the third round were just released. This third round
>>>>> > ended in a deadlock therefore, as agreed in Singapore, NCSG though
>>>>> its
>>>>> > leadership should proposed Sam as the compromise candidate. Just in
>>>>> > fairness to history and for the record, in Singapore we had agreed
>>>>> that
>>>>> > we would wait for two rounds and if a deadlock happened, Sam would be
>>>>> > proposed as a candidate for the third round. But despite that, in
>>>>> order
>>>>> > to give Avri another opportunity and as a proof of good faith, we (
>>>>> > NPOC) waited for the results of the third round to happen. Now, that
>>>>> it
>>>>> > has happened, and we are going for a fourth round, the fair thing to
>>>>> do
>>>>> > is to that respect the terms of our deal despite the disappointment
>>>>> that
>>>>> > many can feel.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Marie-laure
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Enviado desde mi iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> > El 14/04/2014, a las 10:29 p.m., Rudi Vansnick <
>>>>> rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
>>>>> > <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>> escribi?:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Dear Policy Committee members,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> As the chair of the NPOC PC, after consulting with the committee
>>>>> >> members, I agree we proceed as is stated in Avri?s mail. We go for
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> 3rd round and if the deadlock happens we proceed with Sam Lanfranco
>>>>> as
>>>>> >> the compromise candidate.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Rudi Vansnick
>>>>> >> NPOC chair Policy Committee
>>>>> >> NPOC treasurer
>>>>> >> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>
>>>>> >> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
>>>>> >> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>>>>> >> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Op 14-apr.-2014, om 17:06 heeft Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>>>>> >> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I hope we are still giving me the third round to see what happens.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> If no one wins the 60% in this vote, then we are in the deadlock we
>>>>> >>> spoke of when Sam is proposed as the compromise candidate.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Or at least that is what I thought we agreed to.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> thanks
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> avri
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 14-Apr-14 02:47, marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>>>>> >>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I would like to call for an NCSG policy meeting soonest in order
>>>>> to
>>>>> >>>> formally nominate Sam as a candidate for the next round.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Best,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Marie-laure
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM, marie-laure Lemineur
>>>>> >>>> <mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I assume that what we agreed on during our NCSG policy meeting
>>>>> in
>>>>> >>>> Singapore, for the third round, is still on...
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> best,
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> ml
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:59 PM, William Drake <
>>>>> wjdrake at gmail.com
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Mikey is the key.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Robin Gross <
>>>>> robin at ipjustice.org
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>> This is really great! Way to go Avri! Keep it up, team!!
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> Best,
>>>>> >>>>> Robin
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 4:39 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Heeey!! Looks like Avri picked up the NCA vote this
>>>>> round!! :)
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> Nice.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Rafik Dammak
>>>>> >>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> The result of 2nd round, we are going to have a 3rd
>>>>> round.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Best,
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Apr 12, 2014 4:03 PM
>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: NCPH Board seat 14 election - results second
>>>>> round
>>>>> >>>>>>> To: "krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>"
>>>>> >>>>>>> <krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>,
>>>>> >>>>>>> "rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>"
>>>>> >>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Cc: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Kristina and Rafik,____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Please find the results of the second round of voting
>>>>> which
>>>>> >>>>>>> closed on Friday, 11 April at 23:59 UTC.
>>>>> >>>>>>> Final tally :____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 7 votes Avri Doria____
>>>>> >>>>>>> 6 votes Bill Graham____
>>>>> >>>>>>> 0 vote None of the above____
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>> We await your instructions to continue with the third
>>>>> >>>>>>> round of voting due to open at 07:00UTC on 14 April 2014 and
>>>>> >>>>>>> close on 16 April at 23:59 UTC. Please provide us with the
>>>>> text
>>>>> >>>>>>> for the ballot and any covering note that has to be sent with
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>>>> vote.____
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.____
>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards,____
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>> Glen____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *Machine tally:
>>>>> >>>>>>> **Total Ballots Cast (including duplicates):*13
>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ballots Counted (excluding duplicates):* 13
>>>>> >>>>>>> *Voters Who Haven't Voted:* 0 *____*
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ballot with added tally (using weights, if any):*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Select just one of the nominees
>>>>> below____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: 7 votes [] Avri Doria____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: 6 votes [] Bill Graham____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: 0 votes [] None of the above____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> *Ballots Received:*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 1dd5b4c740cea13 Received at 2014-04-11
>>>>> 16:49:17
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 1a1b25296676fb1 Received at 2014-04-11
>>>>> 15:28:42
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 4c958b0a504c620 Received at 2014-04-10
>>>>> 13:40:01
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID ad2820176335eb9 Received at 2014-04-10
>>>>> 13:08:07
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID a1f76553370d1a0 Received at 2014-04-10
>>>>> 09:26:14
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID fe7ceebe542d573 Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 16:52:25
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 38e81b64ae7b939 Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 15:57:41
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID b38aaa35f39640a Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 13:35:34
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 7b27a78001e9a0e Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 11:39:05
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 4b5a67b6bf8b080 Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 11:31:12
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 56805a16c3eee62 Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 09:48:11
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID a5658498dd4faf6 Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 08:41:13
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 149c308cf7d49b7 Received at 2014-04-08
>>>>> 06:59:36
>>>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 1: [X]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 2: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Glen de Saint G?ry ____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> GNSO Secretariat ____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org
>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:gnso.secretariat at gnso.icann.org>
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>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/>____
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> __ __
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