[PC-NCSG] NCPH Board seat 14 election - results second round
Magaly Pazello
magaly.pazello
Fri Apr 18 19:50:28 EEST 2014
Hi!
It is my understand too, I mean what Maria explained and Rafik observations
about the CSG reactions.
Thank you our brave Avri!
For whom is coming to NM have a smooth trip to S?o Paulo. And at the
airports take care with ATM machines as it is a paradise of credit/bank
account card fraud!
Magaly
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Maria,
>
> Thanks for the summary,
> it is when we have deadlock that we can propose the compromise and having
> the ability to do so. and the only way to reach deadlock is at 3rd and
> final round .
> yes , we can follow the proposal: writing to the NCPH list to initiate the
> discussion regarding compromise candidates. and yes we cannot predict CSG
> reactions and we should be ready for that.
> I already indicated quickly to Kristina when I received the results that
> we should discuss but no reply yet. I think that is easter holidays this
> weekend and probably won't get answer quickly ( in addition to those who
> are travelling to Sao Paulo soon).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2014-04-18 0:57 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi Marie Laure et al,
>>
>> Yes, just to be clear, we'd agreed in Singapore to let the thing go to
>> three rounds and if it was still deadlocked,i.e. an election clearly wasn't
>> going to yield a winning candidate, that NCSG would propose Sam to the CSG
>> as a compromise candidate both sides of the NCPH could agree on. (at least
>> we in the NCSG agree he would be a good candidate, and we hope the CSG will
>> agree, too) We didn't want to put Sam up against BIll in a vote, but rather
>> in the discussions we anticipated might ensue after the vote proved
>> inconclusive.
>>
>> So I think there should be no scope for any disappointment just yet -
>> apart from the obvious disappointment that the NCSG's candidate didn't win
>> outright in three rounds of voting.
>>
>> Now we need to start the process of interacting with the CSG on a
>> compromise person to be agreed on by both sides of the NCPH, and we all
>> stand behind Sam as that person.
>>
>> From here on in, we can't predict what the CSG will propose or how they
>> will react, so we will have to work very closely across the NCSG to make
>> sure we're all happy.
>>
>> Let's be clear about precisely how we will take the next step. I think we
>> should write to the NCPH list and say basically 'there's no clear outcome
>> in the election, so shall we discuss compromise candidates?' and if/when
>> they agree, say we propose Sam.
>>
>> How does that sound as a next step?
>>
>> Maria
>>
>> p.s. Thank you very, very much, Avri, for standing in the election on
>> behalf of the NCSG. It was fantastic that you secured the NCA vote, and a
>> shame the ISPs didn't come through. Tant pis!
>>
>>
>> On 17 April 2014 16:39, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> While I disagree with your interpretation about what was agreed to, I
>>> appreciate you giving me the chance. And I appreciate the fact that all
>>> of the votes held and I was able to at least get the majority vote.
>>>
>>> And yes now is the time to propose Sam as the compromise.
>>>
>>> Which means he replaces _both_ BillG and me and become a sole candidate
>>> in a election between Sam and none of the above.
>>>
>>> That is what I think we agreed to. And I am pretty sure the record
>>> shows that.
>>>
>>> avri
>>>
>>> On 17-Apr-14 11:13, Marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>>> > Dear NCSG-PC members,
>>> >
>>> > The results of the third round were just released. This third round
>>> > ended in a deadlock therefore, as agreed in Singapore, NCSG though its
>>> > leadership should proposed Sam as the compromise candidate. Just in
>>> > fairness to history and for the record, in Singapore we had agreed that
>>> > we would wait for two rounds and if a deadlock happened, Sam would be
>>> > proposed as a candidate for the third round. But despite that, in order
>>> > to give Avri another opportunity and as a proof of good faith, we (
>>> > NPOC) waited for the results of the third round to happen. Now, that it
>>> > has happened, and we are going for a fourth round, the fair thing to do
>>> > is to that respect the terms of our deal despite the disappointment
>>> that
>>> > many can feel.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Marie-laure
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Enviado desde mi iPad
>>> >
>>> > El 14/04/2014, a las 10:29 p.m., Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
>>> > <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>> escribi?:
>>> >
>>> >> Dear Policy Committee members,
>>> >>
>>> >> As the chair of the NPOC PC, after consulting with the committee
>>> >> members, I agree we proceed as is stated in Avri?s mail. We go for the
>>> >> 3rd round and if the deadlock happens we proceed with Sam Lanfranco as
>>> >> the compromise candidate.
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> Rudi Vansnick
>>> >> NPOC chair Policy Committee
>>> >> NPOC treasurer
>>> >> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>
>>> >> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
>>> >> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>>> >> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
>>> >>
>>> >> Op 14-apr.-2014, om 17:06 heeft Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>>> >> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I hope we are still giving me the third round to see what happens.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If no one wins the 60% in this vote, then we are in the deadlock we
>>> >>> spoke of when Sam is proposed as the compromise candidate.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Or at least that is what I thought we agreed to.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> thanks
>>> >>>
>>> >>> avri
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 14-Apr-14 02:47, marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>>> >>>> Dear Rafik,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I would like to call for an NCSG policy meeting soonest in order to
>>> >>>> formally nominate Sam as a candidate for the next round.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Marie-laure
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM, marie-laure Lemineur
>>> >>>> <mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I assume that what we agreed on during our NCSG policy meeting in
>>> >>>> Singapore, for the third round, is still on...
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> best,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ml
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:59 PM, William Drake <
>>> wjdrake at gmail.com
>>> >>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
>>> >>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Mikey is the key.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Robin Gross <
>>> robin at ipjustice.org
>>> >>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
>>> >>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> This is really great! Way to go Avri! Keep it up, team!!
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Best,
>>> >>>>> Robin
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 4:39 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Heeey!! Looks like Avri picked up the NCA vote this
>>> round!! :)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Nice.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Rafik Dammak
>>> >>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Hi ,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> The result of 2nd round, we are going to have a 3rd round.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Best,
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Rafik
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>>>>> From: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>> >>>>>>> Date: Apr 12, 2014 4:03 PM
>>> >>>>>>> Subject: NCPH Board seat 14 election - results second
>>> round
>>> >>>>>>> To: "krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>"
>>> >>>>>>> <krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>,
>>> >>>>>>> "rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>"
>>> >>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>>> >>>>>>> Cc: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Dear Kristina and Rafik,____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Please find the results of the second round of voting
>>> which
>>> >>>>>>> closed on Friday, 11 April at 23:59 UTC.
>>> >>>>>>> Final tally :____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 7 votes Avri Doria____
>>> >>>>>>> 6 votes Bill Graham____
>>> >>>>>>> 0 vote None of the above____
>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>> >>>>>>> We await your instructions to continue with the third
>>> >>>>>>> round of voting due to open at 07:00UTC on 14 April 2014 and
>>> >>>>>>> close on 16 April at 23:59 UTC. Please provide us with the text
>>> >>>>>>> for the ballot and any covering note that has to be sent with the
>>> >>>>>>> vote.____
>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.____
>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards,____
>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>> >>>>>>> Glen____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *Machine tally:
>>> >>>>>>> **Total Ballots Cast (including duplicates):*13
>>> >>>>>>> *Ballots Counted (excluding duplicates):* 13
>>> >>>>>>> *Voters Who Haven't Voted:* 0 *____*
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *Ballot with added tally (using weights, if any):*____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Select just one of the nominees below____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 1: 7 votes [] Avri Doria____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 2: 6 votes [] Bill Graham____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 3: 0 votes [] None of the above____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> *Ballots Received:*____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> __ __
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Ballot ID 1dd5b4c740cea13 Received at 2014-04-11 16:49:17
>>> >>>>>>> UTC *(counted)*____
>>> >>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 2: [X]____
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> 3: [ ]____
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>>> >>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>
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