[PC-NCSG] NCPH Board seat 14 election - results second round
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak
Fri Apr 18 18:40:25 EEST 2014
Hi Maria,
Thanks for the summary,
it is when we have deadlock that we can propose the compromise and having
the ability to do so. and the only way to reach deadlock is at 3rd and
final round .
yes , we can follow the proposal: writing to the NCPH list to initiate the
discussion regarding compromise candidates. and yes we cannot predict CSG
reactions and we should be ready for that.
I already indicated quickly to Kristina when I received the results that we
should discuss but no reply yet. I think that is easter holidays this
weekend and probably won't get answer quickly ( in addition to those who
are travelling to Sao Paulo soon).
Best Regards,
Rafik
2014-04-18 0:57 GMT+09:00 Maria Farrell <maria.farrell at gmail.com>:
> Hi Marie Laure et al,
>
> Yes, just to be clear, we'd agreed in Singapore to let the thing go to
> three rounds and if it was still deadlocked,i.e. an election clearly wasn't
> going to yield a winning candidate, that NCSG would propose Sam to the CSG
> as a compromise candidate both sides of the NCPH could agree on. (at least
> we in the NCSG agree he would be a good candidate, and we hope the CSG will
> agree, too) We didn't want to put Sam up against BIll in a vote, but rather
> in the discussions we anticipated might ensue after the vote proved
> inconclusive.
>
> So I think there should be no scope for any disappointment just yet -
> apart from the obvious disappointment that the NCSG's candidate didn't win
> outright in three rounds of voting.
>
> Now we need to start the process of interacting with the CSG on a
> compromise person to be agreed on by both sides of the NCPH, and we all
> stand behind Sam as that person.
>
> From here on in, we can't predict what the CSG will propose or how they
> will react, so we will have to work very closely across the NCSG to make
> sure we're all happy.
>
> Let's be clear about precisely how we will take the next step. I think we
> should write to the NCPH list and say basically 'there's no clear outcome
> in the election, so shall we discuss compromise candidates?' and if/when
> they agree, say we propose Sam.
>
> How does that sound as a next step?
>
> Maria
>
> p.s. Thank you very, very much, Avri, for standing in the election on
> behalf of the NCSG. It was fantastic that you secured the NCA vote, and a
> shame the ISPs didn't come through. Tant pis!
>
>
> On 17 April 2014 16:39, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While I disagree with your interpretation about what was agreed to, I
>> appreciate you giving me the chance. And I appreciate the fact that all
>> of the votes held and I was able to at least get the majority vote.
>>
>> And yes now is the time to propose Sam as the compromise.
>>
>> Which means he replaces _both_ BillG and me and become a sole candidate
>> in a election between Sam and none of the above.
>>
>> That is what I think we agreed to. And I am pretty sure the record
>> shows that.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> On 17-Apr-14 11:13, Marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>> > Dear NCSG-PC members,
>> >
>> > The results of the third round were just released. This third round
>> > ended in a deadlock therefore, as agreed in Singapore, NCSG though its
>> > leadership should proposed Sam as the compromise candidate. Just in
>> > fairness to history and for the record, in Singapore we had agreed that
>> > we would wait for two rounds and if a deadlock happened, Sam would be
>> > proposed as a candidate for the third round. But despite that, in order
>> > to give Avri another opportunity and as a proof of good faith, we (
>> > NPOC) waited for the results of the third round to happen. Now, that it
>> > has happened, and we are going for a fourth round, the fair thing to do
>> > is to that respect the terms of our deal despite the disappointment that
>> > many can feel.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Marie-laure
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Enviado desde mi iPad
>> >
>> > El 14/04/2014, a las 10:29 p.m., Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
>> > <mailto:rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>> escribi?:
>> >
>> >> Dear Policy Committee members,
>> >>
>> >> As the chair of the NPOC PC, after consulting with the committee
>> >> members, I agree we proceed as is stated in Avri?s mail. We go for the
>> >> 3rd round and if the deadlock happens we proceed with Sam Lanfranco as
>> >> the compromise candidate.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> Rudi Vansnick
>> >> NPOC chair Policy Committee
>> >> NPOC treasurer
>> >> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org <mailto:rudi.vansnick at npoc.org>
>> >> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
>> >> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>> >> www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org>
>> >>
>> >> Op 14-apr.-2014, om 17:06 heeft Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
>> >> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> het volgende geschreven:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope we are still giving me the third round to see what happens.
>> >>>
>> >>> If no one wins the 60% in this vote, then we are in the deadlock we
>> >>> spoke of when Sam is proposed as the compromise candidate.
>> >>>
>> >>> Or at least that is what I thought we agreed to.
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> avri
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 14-Apr-14 02:47, marie-laure Lemineur wrote:
>> >>>> Dear Rafik,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would like to call for an NCSG policy meeting soonest in order to
>> >>>> formally nominate Sam as a candidate for the next round.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Marie-laure
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:18 AM, marie-laure Lemineur
>> >>>> <mllemineur at gmail.com <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>
>> >>>> <mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I assume that what we agreed on during our NCSG policy meeting in
>> >>>> Singapore, for the third round, is still on...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> best,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ml
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 4:59 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com
>> >>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>
>> >>>> <mailto:wjdrake at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mikey is the key.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org
>> >>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>
>> >>>> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> This is really great! Way to go Avri! Keep it up, team!!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best,
>> >>>>> Robin
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 4:39 AM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Heeey!! Looks like Avri picked up the NCA vote this round!!
>> :)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Nice.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Apr 12, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Rafik Dammak
>> >>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi ,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> The result of 2nd round, we are going to have a 3rd round.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Rafik
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>>>> From: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>> >>>>>>> Date: Apr 12, 2014 4:03 PM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: NCPH Board seat 14 election - results second round
>> >>>>>>> To: "krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>"
>> >>>>>>> <krosette at cov.com <mailto:krosette at cov.com>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:krosette at cov.com>>,
>> >>>>>>> "rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>"
>> >>>>>>> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>>
>> >>>>>>> Cc: "Glen de Saint G?ry" <Glen at icann.org
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:Glen at icann.org>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> __ __
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Dear Kristina and Rafik,____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> __ __
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Please find the results of the second round of voting which
>> >>>>>>> closed on Friday, 11 April at 23:59 UTC.
>> >>>>>>> Final tally :____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 7 votes Avri Doria____
>> >>>>>>> 6 votes Bill Graham____
>> >>>>>>> 0 vote None of the above____
>> >>>>>>> __ __
>> >>>>>>> We await your instructions to continue with the third
>> >>>>>>> round of voting due to open at 07:00UTC on 14 April 2014 and
>> >>>>>>> close on 16 April at 23:59 UTC. Please provide us with the text
>> >>>>>>> for the ballot and any covering note that has to be sent with the
>> >>>>>>> vote.____
>> >>>>>>> __ __
>> >>>>>>> Thank you.____
>> >>>>>>> Kind regards,____
>> >>>>>>> __ __
>> >>>>>>> Glen____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *Machine tally:
>> >>>>>>> **Total Ballots Cast (including duplicates):*13
>> >>>>>>> *Ballots Counted (excluding duplicates):* 13
>> >>>>>>> *Voters Who Haven't Voted:* 0 *____*
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *Ballot with added tally (using weights, if any):*____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Select just one of the nominees below____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 1: 7 votes [] Avri Doria____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 2: 6 votes [] Bill Graham____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 3: 0 votes [] None of the above____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *__ __*
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> *Ballots Received:*____
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> __ __
>> >>>>>>>
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