[PC-NCSG] Fwd: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012
Brenden Kuerbis
bkuerbis
Thu Sep 27 22:30:12 EEST 2012
Thank you Mary and Avri! You may also want to cc the NCSG Members list, as
there was a lot of enthusiasm for this statement.
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM, <Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu> wrote:
> Hi and yes, I can do that. Sorry - I was in classes and meetings all day
> and am just now catching up on these emails. I have just emailed the DT
> mailing list to confirm Avri's and Wendy's statement of the NCSG and NCUC
> position. I'll send this statement as drafted to the DT now, on behalf of
> the NCSG.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mary
>
>
> Mary W S Wong
> Professor of Law
> Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
> Chair, Graduate IP Programs
> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
> Two White Street
> Concord, NH 03301
> USA
> Email: mary.wong at law.unh.edu
> Phone: 1-603-513-5143
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> Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN)
> at: http://ssrn.com/author=437584
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>
> >>>
>
> *From: *
>
> Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>
>
> *To:*
>
> <pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
>
> *Date: *
>
> 9/27/2012 2:03 PM
>
> *Subject: *
>
> [PC-NCSG] Fwd: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance
> 26 September 2012
>
> can we do this:
>
> "
> So, I will ask again if the NCSG can submit an official statement for the
> record by COB today to give ICANN staff time to collect the statements for
> posting tomorrow. We would like to get the recommendations out for public
> comment (along with all of the other statements) ASAP to give as much time
> prior to Toronto for people to discuss. WE will continue to accept more
> comments through Toronto and beyond (as there is a reply period).
> "
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us>
> *Sent:* Thu Sep 27 18:45:34 AZST 2012
> *To:* Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>, "'gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org'" <
> gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org>, "Wolfgang Kleinw?chter" <
> wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
> *Subject:* RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26
> September 2012
>
>
> Avri,****
>
>
> I believe others may have addressed your points. September 26th (yesterday)
> was the deadline for the response to the Consensus call and as Chuck
> stated, that date has been known for several weeks (at least three weeks ?
> 21 days). I have agreed to give an extra day for those that were unable to
> get in written statements by yesterday and expressed their viewpoints
> orally on the call, just so I (or ICANN staff) would not be in the position
> of paraphrasing the oral comments in the documents that go out. ****
>
> ** **
>
> If Wolfgang did say he was speaking in his personal capacity, I missed
> that as well. I just re-listened to that part of the call which occurs a
> little less than ? way through the call (maybe closer to 1/3 of the way
> through?hard to tell as no timer is available?but it is between Alan?s
> statement on behalf of the ALAC and Osvaldo?s statement), where Wolfgang
> states: ?bottom line is similar to the ALAC. We can more or less agree
> with the recommendation as it stands now. . . for the moment I think the
> text of the recommendation, the language as it stands now, lets say has a
> rough consensus of the constituency.? ****
>
> ** **
>
> So, I will ask again if the NCSG can submit an official statement for the
> record by COB today to give ICANN staff time to collect the statements for
> posting tomorrow. We would like to get the recommendations out for public
> comment (along with all of the other statements) ASAP to give as much time
> prior to Toronto for people to discuss. WE will continue to accept more
> comments through Toronto and beyond (as there is a reply period).****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks.****
>
> ** **
>
> *Jeffrey J. Neuman**
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs*
>
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Avri Doria [mailto:avri at acm.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:23 AM
> *To:* Neuman, Jeff; 'gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org'; Wolfgang Kleinw?chter
> *Subject:* RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26
> September 2012****
>
> ** **
>
> hi,
>
> He informed the NCSG list that he was speaking purely personally and not
> for the NCSG.
>
> I really hope that we are not once again using this DT to suppress
> disagreement. I have been very clear for a while now that you do not have
> agreement from the NCSG for a moratorium recommendation. To miss one
> meeting and have that erased would really be a misuse of even this
> misapplication of GNSO process.
>
> I know it is predetermined that they will get special privileges not
> available to others and not established through proper process, but it
> should not go down as something that has consensus.
> Also giving only one day for the submission of comments is a bit arbitrary
> and prejudicial in my opinion.****
>
> "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us> wrote:****
>
>
>
> Avri,
>
> We are going to open up a public comment period on everything that has been received by COB today (wherever you are in the world)...just so Berry and ICANN has it when they come into the office in the morning Friday, that said, Wolfgang was on from the NCSG yesterday, but did not express opposition to the moratorium. I thought, and we can check the recording, that he said the NCSG supported the recommendations. I could be off base, and Berry was taking notes so he can correct me.
>
> In either case, that opinion is not set in stone, but it is important as it sounded like on the call the was ind!
>
>
>
> eed a
>
> consensus on all of the recommendations (if just a rough consensus). So, if you could confirm the NCSG position that would be great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sent with Good (www.good.com)
>
>
> -----Original****
>
> Message-----
> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at acm.org <avri at acm.org>]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 02:31 AM Eastern Standard Time
> To: gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012
>
> I unfortunately could not attend the meeting.
>
> I want to make it clear that I do not support a the moratorium, but do support the PDP
> I also believe that this is the position of the NCSG.
>
> I hope that this is what was conveyed by the lone NCSG participant.
>
> What is the deadline for opposing
>
> statements?
>
>
> Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) and Red Cross (RC) names discussion group teleconference held on Wednesday 26 September 2012 at 1800 UTC at:
>
>
>
> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-ioc-20120926-en.mp3
>
>
>
> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep
>
>
>
> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/>;
>
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> Attendees
>
> Jeff Neuman - Registry SG group leader
>
> Wolfgang Kleinwachter ? NCUC
>
> Lanre Ajayi - Nominating Committee Appointee
>
> Alan Greenberg ? ALAC
>
> Chuck Gomes - RySG
>
> Kiran Malancharuvil ? IPC
>
> David Heasley - IPC
>
> Jim Bikoff ? IPC
>
> St?phane Hankins ? International Committee****
>
> of the Red Cross
>
> Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee
>
> Osvaldo Novao -ISPC
>
>
>
>
>
> Apology :
>
> Avri Doria ? NCSG
>
> J.Scott Evans ? IPC
>
> Gregory Shatan ? IPC
>
> Mary Wong - NCUC
>
> Brian Peck
>
>
>
> ICANN Staff
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> Margie Milam
>
> Berry Cobb
>
> Nathalie Peregrine
>
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>
>
> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **
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>
>
> The mailing list address is
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> Public archives are at:http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-iocrc-dt/
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>
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Nathalie
>
> GNSO Secretariat
>
> gnso-secs at icann.org <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>>
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> Avri Doria
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> ****
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> Avri Doria****
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