[PC-NCSG] Fwd: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26 September 2012

Thu Sep 27 21:52:03 EEST 2012

Hi and yes, I can do that. Sorry - I was in classes and meetings all
day and am just now catching up on these emails. I have just emailed the
DT mailing list to confirm Avri's and Wendy's statement of the NCSG and
NCUC position. I'll send this statement as drafted to the DT now, on
behalf of the NCSG. 

Cheers 
Mary

Mary W S Wong
Professor of Law
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
Chair, Graduate IP Programs
UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
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From:  
Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> 

To: 
<pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org> 

Date:  
9/27/2012 2:03 PM 

Subject:  
[PC-NCSG] Fwd: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3,
attendance 26 September 2012 

can we do this:

"
So, I will ask again if the NCSG can submit an official statement for
the record by COB today to give ICANN staff time to collect the
statements for posting tomorrow. We would like to get the
recommendations out for public comment (along with all of the other
statements) ASAP to give as much time prior to Toronto for people to
discuss. WE will continue to accept more comments through Toronto and
beyond (as there is a reply period).
"

From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us>
Sent: Thu Sep 27 18:45:34 AZST 2012
To: Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>, "'gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org'"
<gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org>, "Wolfgang Kleinw?chter"
<wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de>
Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26
September 2012

Avri, 

I believe others may have addressed your points.  September 26th
(yesterday) was the deadline for the response to the Consensus call and
as Chuck stated, that date has been known for several weeks (at least
three weeks ? 21 days).  I have agreed to give an extra day for those
that were unable to get in written statements by yesterday and expressed
their viewpoints orally on the call, just so I (or ICANN staff) would
not be in the position of paraphrasing the oral comments in the
documents that go out.   

If Wolfgang did say he was speaking in his personal capacity, I missed
that as well.  I just re-listened to that part of the call which occurs
a little less than ? way through the call (maybe closer to 1/3 of the
way through?hard to tell as no timer is available?but it is between
Alan?s statement on behalf of the ALAC and Osvaldo?s statement),
where Wolfgang states: ?bottom line is similar to the ALAC.  We can more
or less agree with the recommendation as it stands now. . . for the
moment I think the text of the recommendation, the language as it stands
now, lets say has a rough consensus of the constituency.?   

So, I will ask again if the NCSG can submit an official statement for
the record by COB today to give ICANN staff time to collect the
statements for posting tomorrow.  We would like to get the
recommendations out for public comment (along with all of the other
statements) ASAP to give as much time prior to Toronto for people to
discuss.  WE will continue to accept more comments through Toronto and
beyond (as there is a reply period). 

Thanks. 

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs

From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at acm.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:23 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff; 'gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org'; Wolfgang Kleinw?chter
Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26
September 2012 

hi,

He informed the NCSG list that he was speaking purely personally and
not for the NCSG.

I really hope that we are not once again using this DT to suppress
disagreement. I have been very clear for a while now that you do not
have agreement from the NCSG for a moratorium recommendation. To miss
one meeting and have that erased would really be a misuse of even this
misapplication of GNSO process.

I know it is predetermined that they will get special privileges not
available to others and not established through proper process, but it
should not go down as something that has consensus.
Also giving only one day for the submission of comments is a bit
arbitrary and prejudicial in my opinion. 

"Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman at neustar.us> wrote: 

Avri,

We are going to open up a public comment period on everything that has
been received by COB today (wherever you are in the world)...just so
Berry and ICANN has it when they come into the office in the morning
Friday,  that said, Wolfgang was on from the NCSG yesterday, but did not
express opposition to the moratorium.  I thought, and we can check the
recording, that he said the NCSG supported the recommendations.  I could
be off base, and Berry was taking notes so he can correct me.

In either case, that opinion is not set in stone, but it is important
as it sounded like on the call the was ind!              

 eed a          
consensus on all of the recommendations (if just a rough consensus). 
So, if you could confirm the NCSG position that would be great.

Thanks.

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-----Original 
Message-----
From:  Avri Doria [mailto:avri at acm.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 02:31 AM Eastern Standard Time
To: gnso-iocrc-dt at icann.org
Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] IOCR discussion group - MP3, attendance 26
September 2012

I unfortunately could not attend the meeting.

I want to make it clear that I do not support a the moratorium, but do
support the PDP
I also believe that this is the position of the NCSG.

I hope that this is what was conveyed by the lone NCSG participant.

What is the deadline for opposing 
statements?

Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org> wrote:

 Dear all,

  Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC/GNSO issues related to
International Olympic Committee (IOC) and Red Cross (RC) names
discussion group teleconference held on Wednesday 26 September 2012  at
1800 UTC at:

  http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-ioc-20120926-en.mp3

  On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#sep

 The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO
Master Calendar page:

  http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> (
http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/%3e ); 

 Attendees

  Jeff Neuman -  Registry SG group leader

   Wolfgang Kleinwachter ? NCUC

   Lanre Ajayi - Nominating Committee Appointee

   Alan Greenberg ? ALAC

   Chuck Gomes - RySG

  Kiran Malancharuvil ? IPC

  David Heasley - IPC

   Jim Bikoff ? IPC

   St?phane Hankins ? International Committee 
of the Red Cross

   Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee

   Osvaldo Novao -ISPC

  Apology : 

   Avri Doria ?  NCSG

   J.Scott Evans ? IPC

   Gregory Shatan ? IPC

   Mary Wong - NCUC

   Brian Peck

  ICANN Staff

   Margie Milam

   Berry Cobb

   Nathalie Peregrine

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 Thank you.

  Kind regards,

 Nathalie

  GNSO Secretariat

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Avri Doria

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