[PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark

Mon Feb 20 21:27:34 EET 2012

Hi KK,

As Bill mentioned previously, discussion on the NCSG list has been fairly
uniform against special protection sought by the IOC and the Red Cross.  I
have not seen convincing arguments otherwise.  Therefore, I support the
former.

Brenden

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Konstantinos Komaitis <
k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk> wrote:

> Thank you very much Alain for forwarding this email to this list .
> According to the NCSG charter (and Robin's previous email) this will
> require rough consensus to be NCSG policy. can I therefore hear from the
> other members in this list about this issue?
>
> Thanks
>
> KK
>
>
>
> From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger at gmail.com<mailto:
> alain.berranger at gmail.com>>
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:55:56 +0000
> To: Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk<mailto:
> k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>>
> Cc: Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org<mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>>, "
> pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org<mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>" <
> pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org<mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>>, "Klaus.Stoll" <
> klaus.stoll at chasquinet.org<mailto:klaus.stoll at chasquinet.org>>, Joy
> Liddicoat <joy at apc.org<mailto:joy at apc.org>>, "amber at npoc.org<mailto:
> amber at npoc.org>" <amber at npoc.org<mailto:amber at npoc.org>>, "Debbie at npoc.org
> <mailto:Debbie at npoc.org>" <debbie at npoc.org<mailto:debbie at npoc.org>>, Lori
> Schulman <lori.schulman at ascd.org<mailto:lori.schulman at ascd.org>>,
> "Branzelle, Judy" <Judy.Branzelle at goodwill.org<mailto:
> Judy.Branzelle at goodwill.org>>
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark
>
> Hi Konstantinos,
>
> Here is what Klaus has to say:
>
> " From: klaus.stoll<mailto:klaus.stoll at chasquinet.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:24 PM
> To: pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org<mailto:pc-ncsg at ipjustice.org>
> Subject: Fw: Fwd: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark
>
> Dear Friends
>
> Greetings. In response to Konstantinos. My statement regarding the special
> protection sought by the IOC and the Red Cross was a private statement and
> not the official position of NPOC. I am sorry about that. After much
> deliberation I have come to the conclusion that the special protection
> sought by the IOC and the RED Cross is very dangerous as it creates the
> precedence on which many many other applications can and will request
> similar protection.
>
> Yours, Klaus"
>
> Konstantinos, as to official NPOC policy statements of any kind, and as I
> explained to Joy not long ago, please understand that we are in the process
> of organizing/funding NPOC as well as undergoing elections. Therefore, we
> are not in the position to be very active nor effective in policy issues
> right now. In due course, this will change and meanwhile I ask for your
> understanding and patience. To summarize, better stick to a NCUC position.
> You can certainly state that NPOC has not consulted its membership for
> reasons stated above (organization of new NPOC Constituency and first full
> fledged NPOC Constituency elections - or maybe use wording such as
> transition in leadership if you prefer).
>
> Best, Alain
>
> 2012/2/20 Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk<mailto:
> k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>>
> Thanks Alain ? can someone however from NPOC confirm what Klaus suggested
> at the policy call last week as I would like to know before Wednesday
> whether this is a NCUC or NCSG position?
>
> Many thanks for taking care of this.
>
> KK
>
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> On Behalf Of Alain Berranger
> Sent: ???????, 20 ??????????? 2012 5:06 ??
> To: Robin Gross
> Cc: NCSG-Policy
> Subject: Re: [PC-NCSG] Fwd: Olympic mark
>
> Klaus does not have access to the list... so it is hard for him to express
> his opinion... Alain
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org<mailto:
> robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk<mailto:
> k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk><mailto:k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>>
> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:44:00 +0000
> Subject: Olympic mark
>
> Hello all,
>
> A quick question: am I correct in thinking that there is a uniform NCSG
> policy on the issue regarding the special protection sought by IOC and the
> Red Cross, re that they should not receive this type of protection? If, so
> I would like to present it as NCSG view rather than NCUC.
>
> I recall Klaus agreeing with this view on the policy call last week, but I
> am not that certain and don't have the time to go through the MP3 recording.
>
> Thanks
>
> KK
>
>
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