[NCSG-FC] Welcome to new reps
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Thu Apr 10 12:27:32 EEST 2025
Hi all
I understand that you both want to run for chair position and presented
your case here and take time to think carefully but cannot reach
conclusion. The chair would be elected by 2/3 of votes and meaning de facto
here that I will be the tie-breaker. I don't believe that was the intent or
spirit of the charter and I find it disturbing. My main concern here is
whoever will be elected means the other party might not be happy with
outcome, a normal human situation. This also means a risk of having a
dysfunctional FC while we are trying to get this committee reactivated and
step by step working on the list of activities listed in the charter. I
would like to find a clear a modus vivendi to allow this committee to work
regardless whoever is in the leadership
I will be mostly offline in coming 2 weeks as I am traveling and be on
leave. I would like to schedule an FC call in the week of 28th April to
discuss this matter and also the FC plan for the year.
Best,
Rafik
As reminder about charter:
*NCSG Finance Committee (NCSG‑FC):*
The NCSG Finance Committee is responsible for establishing a firm financial
footing for the NCSG and administering NCSG funds within a defined
framework that meets relevant legal requirements as well as requirements
imposed by ICANN. The NCSG-FC’s responsibilities include fund raising,
setting voluntary contribution levels for members, determining procedures
for the distribution of funds, and for monitoring the utilization of funds.
The NCSG‑FC will also be responsible for the Treasurer function. Formation
of the NCSG-FC, its composition, and duties within the NCSG‑FC are set out
in Section 2.6.
*2.6 The Financial Committee*
The NCSG Finance Committee is responsible for the following:
- Elect a Chair who will also serve as NCSG Treasurer;
- Determine rates for voluntary contributions from members;
- Develop and deploy a fund‑raising plan for the NCSG;
- Work with the ICANN staff to determine levels of support available to
the NCSG;
- Work with ICANN finance officers to insure the NCSG and its
Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN;
- Accounting for any funds received by the NCSG from any source. This
accounting will include the following:
- All funds raised by voluntary membership fees or otherwise must be
held in a separate NCSG account.
- Proper controls must be implemented.
- Regarding Expenditures:
-
-
- All expenditures under 500 Euro may be made on the authority of
the NCSG Treasurer
- All expenditures over 500 Euro must be approved by the NCSG‑FC
- Financial reports must be prepared annually and be made public.
- Provide internal conflict resolution process regarding funds.
- Provide the oversight of the Treasurer function.
- Fulfill any other accounting, auditing or other prescribed financial
requirements as set by the ICANN Board of Directors for organizations
within the ICANN structure.
- Document methods and procedures used for accounting, reporting and
budget creation. Such documentation is subject to review by the NCSG‑EC.
*2.6.1. NCSG‑FC Composition.*
The NCSG Finance Committee (FC) shall be comprised of one representative
from each Recognized Constituency. Each Candidate Constituency is entitled
to appoint an observer. The NCSG Chair will participate as an ex‑officio
member of the NCSG‑FC and will be included in consensus process and votes.
The FC may invite other members as needed to meet its goals and
responsibilities.
*2.6.2. NCSG‑FC Decision making*
By default NCSG‑FC decisions are made by rough consensus of its members.
Rough consensus means that while all members do not need to agree and that
no single member can veto a decision, all views must be heard and
considered. Any minority views must be recorded along with the decisions.
*2.6.3. NCSG‑FC Leadership*
A Chair from among the members of the NCSG‑FC will be elected by a 2/3 vote
of the NCSG‑FC membership. The chair will be responsible for filling any
necessary Treasurer functions for the NCSG.
- The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
- One or more vice chairs may be chosen by the NCSG‑FC on a
yearly basis.
*2.6.4. NCSG‑FC Work Process*
- As much as possible, all work will be done using Internet tools,
including, inter alia,
o email;
o wiki usage (Note: such a wiki will be publicly viewable though
editing may be restricted to members of the NCSG‑FC);
o online document collaboration tools, for example Google Document,
Google Wave and other available network cloud based tools.
- When necessary teleconferences will be scheduled. A scheduling tool
will be used to attempt to find a time when all members can attend. Unless
all members can attend the teleconference, any decisions made at a
teleconference will be provisional until full consensus is determined.
- When possible, as enabled for example by an ICANN meeting, a
face-to-face meeting of the NCSG‑FC will be held. As with teleconferences,
if all members cannot attend, any decisions made will need to be verified
before being considered final.
*2.6.5. NCSG‑FC Mailing List*
- All NCSG‑FC full members and observers will be subscribed to the
NCSG‑FC mailing list;
- The NCSG‑FC list will maintain an open archive;
- For non‑subscribers, the list will be moderated. Comments from NCSG
members relevant to ongoing discussions will be forwarded to the NCSG‑FC
list by the list moderator.
*2.6.6. NCSG‑FC Observers*
- Any observer to the NCSG‑FC will have full participation rights except
will not be counted in any consensus process or vote.
- Elected or appointed representative from NCSG Candidate Constituencies
will be given observer status.
Le mer. 2 avr. 2025 à 11:28, Pascal Bekono <pbekono at gmail.com> a écrit :
> Dear Rafik, NCSG Chair
> Dear Remmy, NCSG-FC vice chair
>
> I am delighted to see that we are all friends here. That's great.
>
> The Finance Committee is very important, and in accordance with its
> charter, my activities will focus on:
> - transparent collaboration with the NCSG Chair and other members;
> - prioritizing capacity building with ICANN staff to understand current
> financial documents and methodologies;
> - regular monitoring of the NCSG's financial activities and trends;
> - improving the fundraising strategy to enable the NCSG to secure more
> funding and enhance its outreach activities, with the support of volunteers;
> - organizing a face-to-face meeting of the NCSG-FC once a year to define
> our annual strategy.(with ICANN support)
>
> I have extensive experience in strategy, finance, and budgeting. These
> include:
> - 10 years of experience in the budget department in our public
> administration;
> - Board of Directors of the World Computer Exchange (USA) in 2005; -
> - Venture Capital fellow at Laconia VC (USA) in 2005;
> - 2024 NCUC delegate to NOMCOM (mandate reduce because of the new bylaws);
> - former Board chair of African Center for Advocacy (2018-2024)
> - PMP training
> .......
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pascal
>
> Le mer. 2 avr. 2025 à 01:38, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Dear Rafik and Pascal,
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well.
>>
>> I am writing to reiterate my interest in chairing the Finance Committee,
>> a role that I believe my experience as former Vice Chair has prepared me
>> for.
>>
>> In my humble opinion, experience counts significantly in our voluntary
>> work at ICANN. Given my pedigree and previous contributions to the
>> committee, I am confident that my leadership will be beneficial to this
>> administration, particularly under your guidance, Rafik.
>>
>> As we approach the end of ICANN's financial year, I urge you both to
>> endorse my chairmanship. This will enable us to make meaningful progress
>> and achieve our goals.
>>
>> Rafik, as a respected friend, ICANN colleague of long years, and current
>> NCSG Chair, I encourage you to leverage your leadership to streamline
>> NCSG's finances and explore opportunities for improvement, which for me was
>> some of the core reasons we voted you back. A stable financial foundation
>> is crucial for our community's growth and advocacy efforts.
>>
>> By supporting my candidacy, you will be contributing to the committee's
>> effectiveness and the NCSG's overall success. I appreciate your
>> understanding, cooperation, and anticipated feedback.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Remmy Nweke
>> Former Vice Chairman, Finance Committee, NCSG
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>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:14 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi everyone,
>>>
>>> any chance to resolve this?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>> Le lun. 10 mars 2025 à 01:57, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Ok
>>>> Thanks for the feedback!
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 9 Mar 2025, 06:49 Rafik Dammak, <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hi Remmy
>>>>>
>>>>> We are 3 members of the FC and we already have 2 candidates for the
>>>>> same position. We need to find another way to solve this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>>> Le mer. 5 mars 2025 à 22:07, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Rafik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Precisely, I do not have any challenge in having Kossi as observer
>>>>>> and I so move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, having been in the FC previously as the Vice Chair among
>>>>>> others, I would like to throw in my hat into the ring, to lead this
>>>>>> Committee, with the support of you all.
>>>>>> Thanks in anticipation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, 10:29 Rafik Dammak via NCSG-FC, <
>>>>>> ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Pascal,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your response. For clarification, it is for the candidate
>>>>>>> constituency to appoint observer not the recognized constituency such as
>>>>>>> NCUC and NPOC.
>>>>>>> I take note you are a candidate for the FC chair position.
>>>>>>> Currently, we are 3 members in the FC, representatives from NCUC and from
>>>>>>> NPOC and myself ex-officio. I don't think we have any operating procedures
>>>>>>> yet. for reference the provision in NCSG charter:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *2.6.3. NCSG‑FC Leadership*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Chair from among the members of the NCSG‑FC will be elected by a
>>>>>>> 2/3 vote of the NCSG‑FC membership. The chair will be responsible for
>>>>>>> filling any necessary Treasurer functions for the NCSG.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - The NCSG Chair may not serve in this role.
>>>>>>> - One or more vice chairs may be chosen by the NCSG‑FC on
>>>>>>> a yearly basis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le mer. 5 mars 2025 à 11:32, Pascal Bekono <pbekono at gmail.com> a
>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Rafik,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your email, it's an honour to join this committee.
>>>>>>>> Regarding your first subject. I approve the designation of M. Kossi
>>>>>>>> as abserver, it's the prerogative of each constituency to appoint an
>>>>>>>> observer as stipulated in the charter.
>>>>>>>> For the second point of your message, I am a candidate for the
>>>>>>>> position of FC chair.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le mer. 5 mars 2025 à 02:56, Rafik Dammak via NCSG-FC <
>>>>>>>> ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I want to welcome you as the new representatives to NCSG FC. We
>>>>>>>>> want to reactivate FC and schedule some activities following the mission
>>>>>>>>> described in NCSG charter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As a topic, I would like to confirm observer status. NPOC sent the
>>>>>>>>> name of Kossi Amessinou as observer. However, inviting observers
>>>>>>>>> is only the prerogative of FC to decide on. Please share your input on the
>>>>>>>>> matter. Another admin matter will be the appointment of an FC chair.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>>>>
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