[NCSG-FC] Fw: [NCUC-DISCUSS] Call for NCUC Appointee to the Finance Committee - Open until August 3rd

Tue Jul 23 17:17:48 EEST 2019

Hi Bruna,

Remmy is no longer part of the FC mailing list, not sure why he was
removed. Anyway, my concern was more around the process that was used in
appointing a temporary Chair.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:05 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Before we start engaging in such conversations, I ask you to wait for the
> present call to be closed.  NCUC already has a process going on for
> selecting a new appointee to the Finance Committee and, as we dont know the
> outcome of the call yet or the applications received, I would suggest for
> us to wait a bit.
>
> While we wait, it would be great for either Sam, Ayden, Thato and also
> Remmy to maybe share a little bit about their experiences at the FC. Maybe
> by sharing such impressions we can help any member who's in doubt about
> applying for the committee.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bruna Santos
> NCUC Chair
>
> Le mar. 23 juil. 2019 à 09:34, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi Thato,
>>
>> The text you have quoted refers to the appointment of a permanent chair,
>> not an interim chair. An interim chair can be appointed in circumstances
>> such as this one, i.e. where the permanent chair has resigned.
>>
>> I have not sought to appoint a permanent chair.
>>
>> I have done my best to operate in an open and transparent manner. I’m
>> sorry you feel otherwise. You are welcome to escalate your complaint if you
>> wish.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 05:48, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> I would like to take you to a section on the charter that talks to the
>> election of FC members:
>> "The FC Chair must be appointed by the 2/3 votes of the FC members"
>>
>> I thought this was supposed to be done in an open process like an FC
>> webinar or mailing list, I do not think you have the power to appoint on
>> your own regardless of who is eligible to stand for the FC leadership
>> position unless this succession discussion took place in private without
>> the knowledge of all FC members (members and observers).
>>
>> Also as the outgoing chair, you cannot suspend the FC just because you do
>> not wish to continue serving as a Chair or representing NCUC, where do you
>> get that? It seems like you are creating your own rules here because the
>> only power for the Chair according to the charter is to fulfil the NCSG
>> Treasury role. What actually guided your action, does the charter or any
>> community or committee guidelines allow you to act in this fashion?
>>
>> You need to stop what you trying to do and wait for the NCUC chair to
>> give direction or the FC committee to discuss the way forward in an open
>> and inclusive manner as opposed to taking decisions by yourself. This could
>> have been discussed in our meeting today before making taking such a
>> decision.
>>
>> I also find this difficult to understand why other members do not see
>> anything wrong with what is taking place right now or why they are keeping
>> quiet when all these things are taking place, consistency is needed in the
>> FC decision-making process to ensure fairness. I hope we will touch on this
>> in our meeting later today.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:32 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Thato,
>>>
>>> Our charter does not permit the NCSG Chair to serve as Finance Committee
>>> Chair. As the NCUC position will be unfilled come 1 August, that only
>>> leaves Sam as a Finance Committee member who is not NCSG Chair and thus can
>>> serve as Finance Committee Chair. Accordingly, I have asked if he would be
>>> willing to serve as interim Chair. Once the NCUC appoints a new member,
>>> there can be a discussion of the fully-formed Finance Committee as to how
>>> it will be led moving forward.
>>>
>>> The alternative is for me to write to the NCSG Executive Committee and
>>> to ask that the Finance Committee be suspended and to assign its duties to
>>> the Policy Committee until such time as the NCSG Executive Committee is
>>> satisfied it has a fuller membership.
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Monday, 22 July 2019 19:09, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>
>>> Is the appointment you making inline with the constitution?
>>>
>>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:25 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> Please find below the announcement that the NCUC Chair has shared on
>>>> the NCUC mailing list today. As I am an NCUC appointee, and I will soon no
>>>> longer be an NCUC member (effective 30 July), it is appropriate now that a
>>>> call be issued for my replacement.
>>>>
>>>> In the interim, I have asked Sam if he would be prepared to serve as
>>>> interim chair of the Finance Committee from 1 August 2019. He has
>>>> graciously accepted.
>>>>
>>>> We can discuss further tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>> On Monday, 22 July 2019 10:34, Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear NCUC,
>>>>
>>>> We would like to invite applications for Constituency representative
>>>> to the NCSG Finance Committee. Ayden is currently the NCUC
>>>> representative and Finance Committee Chair, but is - unfortunately -
>>>> stepping away from the position. Therefore, the appointment would fill his
>>>> position for the remainder of the year, ending at ICANN67.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, *this present call is open for applications until August
>>>> 3rd* and the the EC will deliberate with the advice of the NCSG Chair
>>>> until* 6 August*.
>>>>
>>>> In accordance with our NCUC Operating Procedures [1], the selection
>>>> process will take into account the *following characteristics**:*
>>>>
>>>> a. Has a depth of expertise in financial management, forensic
>>>> accounting, and/or budgeting.
>>>>
>>>> b. Candidates should also highlight their practical understanding of
>>>> financial accounts, risk management, and understanding of auditing
>>>> processes, as well as any experience with grant seeking and/or fundraising.
>>>>
>>>> *Additional general requirements*
>>>>
>>>> - The candidate must submit an updated Statement of Interest (SoI).
>>>>
>>>> - It is desirable for the candidate to have participated in public
>>>> comment efforts, and be an active member in one or more Working Groups (WG)
>>>> within ICANN or generally been contributing by being involved with outreach
>>>> and NCUC events.
>>>>
>>>> *About the Finance Committee*
>>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Committees-2018>
>>>>
>>>> The Finance Commmitee at NCSG is formed by one NCUC and one NPOC
>>>> representative. The current NPOC representative is Sam Lanfranco.  NCUC can
>>>> also add observers to this committee in case there are more members
>>>> interested in following the committee's work.
>>>>
>>>> *If you are interested at the position, please send your application
>>>> and SOI to **chair at ncuc.org* <chair at ncuc.org>* and copy
>>>>  maryam.bakoshi at icann.org <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>*
>>>>
>>>> [1] NCUC Operating Procedures
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncuc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NCUC
>>>> -Operating-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> --
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>> NCUC Chair
>>>>
>>>>
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