[NCSG-FC] Personal News / Potential Conflict

[Thato Mfikwe]

Extract from the Charter below:

2.6.6. NCSG-­‐FC Observers
• Any observer to the NCSG-­‐FC will have *full participation rights*
except will not be counted in any consensus process or vote.

Let me know if I am misinterpreting this clause because according to this
clause nothing prevents FC observer members from fully engaging, thanks.

Thato Mfikwe.

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 3:02 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:

> Hi Thato,
>
> The charter differentiates between Members and Observers. However, I also
> welcome input and comments from non-members.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 21:49, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ayden,
>
> I was not aware that I was not a member, I thought as an observer member
> and according to the charter states any observer member within the FC I can
> comment but not get involved in decision making or voting within the FC.
>
> Please carefully read the Charter, unless that section has changed, thanks.
>
> Thato Mfikwe.
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:49 AM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Thato,
>>
>> Ahead of the call today I advised the NCUC Chair of the need to launch a
>> call for my replacement. I also acknowledged this on today’s call, noting
>> that my resignation is effective 30 July 2019 (so in three weeks time). So
>> I will remain here as Chair until the NCUC appoints someone else. I did not
>> want to spring this on the NCUC with no notice.
>>
>> However, the business of the Committee must go on, so I will continue to
>> work over the coming weeks to develop our Operating Procedures to make life
>> easier for our next Chair.
>>
>> As to your second question/comment, I think there is a misunderstanding.
>> I said on today’s call that input should be received from both members of
>> the FC and non-members. For example, Thato — you are no longer a member of
>> the FC. But I still listen to your inputs :) That’s what I’m fighting for:
>> broader participation.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 19:28, Thato Mfikwe <thatomfikwe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> With only 4 months, I never expected to hear you say this. If you will no
>> longer be an NCUC member then according to the Charter you cannot represent
>> any constituency within the FC, the NCSG EC, I think can appoint members
>> into the FC. The normal process is that if you decide to proceed then NCUC
>> must call for another representative, consult the Charter for guidance.
>>
>> Now, Referring to your email:
>>
>> "I indicated that non-members of the Finance Committee should be able to
>> comment and provide input to the Finance Committee. Given I may well be one
>> of those individuals, this could be seen as a bias in the document"
>>
>> Are you saying you rather comment and provide input to or in the FC than
>> lead the committee? And if so, I understand you cannot continue commenting
>> and providing input when you should be leading the process and resolving
>> issues as they come and also in advance. Sometimes you need to be on the
>> other side and work with members, who may not always agree with you in a
>> collaborative way, in order to relieve strain of your work, since we are
>> operating within a diverse organisation (ICANN) with a unique setup.
>>
>> Thato Mfikwe.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 7:52 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> As I advised on today's call, I have resigned my membership from the
>>> NCUC effective 30 July and, as I am an NCUC appointee to the Finance
>>> Committee, it is only right that the NCUC Executive Committee consider the
>>> implications of my decision.
>>>
>>> I will be remaining an NCSG member (unaffiliated to any constituency)
>>> and while I will not officially be a member of the Finance Committee, I do
>>> intend to be informally observing the Finance Committee from the sidelines.
>>> I flag this because, as I was reviewing the draft operating procedures and
>>> reflecting on comments I made during today's call, I indicated that
>>> non-members of the Finance Committee should be able to comment and provide
>>> input to the Finance Committee. Given I may well be one of those
>>> individuals, this could be seen as a bias in the document.
>>>
>>> I want to make you aware of this. I do not think it is a major bias that
>>> materially impacts my ability to further contribute to the development of
>>> the operating procedures, but ultimately that is not and should not be my
>>> decision to make, so please do speak up if you disagree with my assessment.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ayden
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>>
>>
>>
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