[NCSG-FC] [Ext] Re: NCSG FC meeting # 2 notice and requests

Thu Aug 23 14:16:04 EEST 2018

What are the processes? And where in the charter says that chairs can
automatically be observers? There is nothing unfortunate about this. Chairs
don't get automatically appointed as observers.

There is Arbitrary treatment at its best as we have been doing in this
committee. But as I said I don't really have to argue with this committee.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:44 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Farzaneh
> It's unfortunate equating the position of chairs and other observers. I do
> not think they are same and is absolutely wrong to compare the two.
>
> I am not sure anyone has opposed your special observer request and the way
> you are going, it seems there is more to it than was presented to us. At
> least we are not in the barracks that order must come from the above or
> somewhere.
>
> As far as I am concerned, yes there are people who know a thing or two
> about NCSG and FC, we must agree there is no bank of knowledge upon any
> individual and we value them and hope to consult them appropriately,
> therefore your insistence for certain people to join FC by all means leaves
> room for a second look.
>
> If you must recall in my last mail. I had noted that there are processes
> of bringing larger community to this committee as contained in the charter
> not by fait. More so, I had like us to also encourage newbies and oldies to
> take interest in what is happening with the FC.
>
> Please allow the process to take its path. The aspect of productivity of
> FC does not depend on any observer so to say as they do not have voting
> powers.
>
> FC will accommodate observers but let us do that at FC agreed time, not an
> individual timeline as currently being proposed.
>
> I appreciate your understanding my dear friend.
>
> Regards.
> Remmy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:03 AM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you want to think that's a special request then having Renata and Joan
>> as observers is special too. Because we never all agreed inviting them and
>> appointing them as observers and they are not entitled to be observers just
>> because they are chairs.
>>
>> There is unnecessary resistant from you and Thato  to bring people who
>> know a thing or two about NCSG charter and its finance committee. I find it
>> unproductive. But i won't waste my time arguing over this.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:41 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the response Farzaneh
>>>
>>> I don't have personal issues adding him or anyone else at that, but I
>>> think FC has means of getting observers outside the current setup, either
>>> as an appointee of NCSG/subgroup.
>>>
>>> I am not sure any call has been made and summarily concluded to that
>>> effect, hence it's a special request that may be urgent.
>>>
>>> Even if we have to invite our larger family colleagues we owe it to
>>> current FC to place the card on the table as to the purpose not arbitrarily.
>>>
>>> I am sure we have a better ways of getting over some of these.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 5:25 pm farzaneh badii, <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's not special. He is an observer of fc from before. If you'd like to
>>>> eliminate him then I'd ask questions.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:17 AM Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Farzaneh,
>>>>> Please what is the essence for this special request?
>>>>> Thanks
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>>>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:01 AM farzaneh badii <
>>>>> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rafik would like to join as an observer as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 6:57 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>>>>> raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [observer]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I`d kindly ask for a dial-out, if possible
>>>>>>> I'm sending the number to Maryam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Yes confirmed
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > A dial out will be appreciated
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > +2348023122558
>>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>>> > Remmy
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 3:44 pm Maryam Bakoshi, <
>>>>>>> maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Dear all,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Please could you confirm the request for an FC meeting on
>>>>>>> Wednesday 29
>>>>>>> >> August 2018 at 1600 UTC.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Many thanks,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7846 471777
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> From: NCSG-FC <ncsg-fc-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of
>>>>>>> farzaneh badii
>>>>>>> >> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >> Reply-To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>> >> Date: Thursday, 16 August 2018 at 20:50
>>>>>>> >> To: NCSG Finance Committee <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [Ext] Re: [NCSG-FC] NCSG FC meeting # 2 notice and
>>>>>>> requests
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I can't do two hours. I do 90 minutes if needed we can have
>>>>>>> another call
>>>>>>> >> in the future. 29 at 16 UTC is fine. Consider that might be a bit
>>>>>>> late for
>>>>>>> >> Maryam.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Farzaneh
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 3:38 PM Thato Mfikwe <
>>>>>>> thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi Farzaeh and Remmy,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Seems like we cannot agree, once again in attempt to reach an
>>>>>>> agreement, I
>>>>>>> >> am available from 27 August to 30 August, please try indicate
>>>>>>> your preferred
>>>>>>> >> date as we might need around 2 hours for this call, thanks.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi all
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> 24th and 29th are ok for me by 16utc
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Remmy
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 4:38 pm Thato Mfikwe, <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi Maryam,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Can you please kindly set up a doodle for the second NCSG FC
>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>> >> planned for next week - anytime between 24 August and 29 August
>>>>>>> 2018.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> We all need to respond to this by 21 August so that invitations
>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>> >> sent in advance, thanks.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Acknowledged with thanks
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 1:31 pm Thato Mfikwe, <thatomfikwe at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I just wanted to bring to your attention that the Draft OP
>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>> >> comment process has been officially closed as on 10 August 2018
>>>>>>> and we will
>>>>>>> >> now collectively work on harmonizing the document before
>>>>>>> submission to the
>>>>>>> >> NCSG EC, hopefully by 2nd week of September 2018.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> In the meantime, I would need us to agree on a date for review of
>>>>>>> >> comments, this week or next week, please confirm the preferred
>>>>>>> week for
>>>>>>> >> holding this meeting, thanks.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> NCSG FC meeting # 2 Proposed Agenda
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Opening and welcome
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Register call and overview of the previous meeting
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Review of community comments and input
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Areas of contention and those needing further comment
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - ICANN 63 NCSG FC meeting and AGM leadership changes (NCUC &
>>>>>>> NCSG)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Next steps (ABR analysis and draft action plan)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Any other business
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - Way forward and closure
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Overview of short-term, 3-month timeline
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - by 25 August, FC online meeting
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - by 7 September, Final OP draft completion and submission to EC
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - by 28 September, feedback from EC
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> - 20 - 28 October (ICANN 63)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Please feel free to add agenda items you think are needed in this
>>>>>>> proposed
>>>>>>> >> meeting.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Please also let me know if we can invite 1 or 2 constituency
>>>>>>> members (as
>>>>>>> >> observers) into the FC in order to assist with drafting comments
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> >> documents or create more diversity in ideas and perspectives
>>>>>>> within the FC
>>>>>>> >> (if we decide to take this route, a financial background or
>>>>>>> experience will
>>>>>>> >> be required in order speed up integration and participation of
>>>>>>> new members).
>>>>>>> >> Always looking forward to your feedback and input, thanks.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thato Mfikwe.
>>>>>>> >>
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