[NCSG-FC] Moving Forward

[Sam Lanfranco]

Ed.,

As part of getting the history of financials sorted out you might want 
to ask both Robin Gross and Milton Mueller if they have any information 
they can share. I hear occasional rumors (false news) that Milton might 
administer some funds (NCUC?, NCSG?) but I don't know. Would be worth 
clearing the air there. Also, in other work I do with the International 
Society on Third Sector Research (ISTR) I get government updates on the 
tax status of U.S. NGOs. Something in ipjustice was in their releases a 
couple of times last year. I think that ipjustice administers no funds 
for anything in the NCSG constituency but am not sure. Robin could be 
asked to clear the air there as well.

As for NPOC, I am now treasurer and we are in the process of moving the 
account from Belgium, where Rudi administered it, to Canada, where Joan 
Kerr and I will administer it. I have our transactions records on the 
Belgium account for 2014-2015 (in Dutch) and hope to have the 2016 
records shortly. Things are not moving as fast on that front as I would 
like so I had to lend NPOC funds for the successful Hyderabad NPOC 
outreach session, so I am eager to complete the transfer of funds to the 
Canadian account.

Tapani is on top of the information with regard to funding the new 
membership database project.

Sam

/On 1/14/2017 9:43 AM, Edward Morris wrote://
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> /HI Sam,/
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> /Excellent points./
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> /As we know, the NCSG has no bank account. When Robin Gross was Chair 
> of the NCSG she did raise money and hold events but I believe the 
> financial part was always done through the NCUC./
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> /Tapani, you've been the leader within the NCSG and NCUC  in trying to 
> both open up the archives of these organizations and to bring 
> transparency into the current processes. Can you tell us anything 
> about the past history of the NCSG FC or, indeed, anything to do with 
> finance in our SG? /
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> /I do understand we did receive funds last year for the new database. 
> Would you be able to tell us what procedure a group lacking a bank 
> account used to receive and spend the monies? I think that will help 
> identify some areas we need to work on./
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> /I will also note that in terms of equity, that our SG does include 
> two constituencies that do interact with ICANN in many ways. I take 
> our remit under the Charter to include insuring our two constituencies 
> are treated fairly by ICANN. Thoughts?/
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> /Thanks,/
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> /Ed/
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> *From*: "Sam Lanfranco" <lanfran at yorku.ca>
> *Sent*: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:52 PM
> *To*: egmorris1 at toast.net, "NCSG Finance Committee" 
> <ncsg-fc at lists.ncsg.is>
> *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-FC] Acknowledgement, thanks and request
> Ed, I think that this is a good and wise suggestion. As a prior step 
> to such a meeting it is important that we, the NCSG Finance Committee, 
> have some historical record of NCSG accounts for the past several 
> years. I for one am completely in the dark as to what funds there are, 
> where they come from, who administers them, and where to find the 
> reports of transactions for the past two or three years.
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> I would find it embarrassing to have a meeting with Xavier where we 
> put a request on the table to insure that "the NCSG and its 
> Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from 
> ICANN" but were unable to say what we have had in the past, how it was 
> spent, and how it is administered.
>
> Sam
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> /On 1/13/2017 3:58 PM, Edward Morris wrote:/
>> /Thanks Tapani and Sam./
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>> /I think we all know that we haven't used the Finance Committee to 
>> its full potential. I look forward to working with both of you, the 
>> NCSG EC and our great membership in building this vital part of the 
>> NCSG./
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>> /The NCSG Charter §2.6.5 states that "when possible, as enabled for 
>> example by an ICANN meeting, a face-to-face meeting of the NCSG-FC 
>> will be held". To fulfil our Charter obligations, I would like to ask 
>> Chair Tarvainen to schedule a full meeting of the Finance Committee 
>> for the next ICANN general meeting, ICANN 58, in Copenhagen./
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>> /I would propose that we then ask ICANN CFO Xavier Caldez and his 
>> team to shift his committee's presentation and consultation from the 
>> General Meeting of the NCSG to that of the Finance Committee. The 
>> Charter tasks the Finance Committee to "work with ICANN finance 
>> officers to insure the NCSG and its Constituencies receive fair and 
>> equivalent financial support from ICANN". I believe that hosting the 
>> ICANN CFO and his team at our FC meeting will enable us to do just that./
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>> /Thanks again for your confidence and I look forward  to working with 
>> everyone on the FC./
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>> /Kind Regards,/
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>> /Edward Morris/
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