[NCSG-EC] [Ext] Re: NCSG EC travel for ICANN81 (Istanbul)

[Johan Helsingius]

Thank you for the clarification, Andrea!

	Julf


On 26/06/2024 14:46, Andrea Glandon wrote:
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> Apologies for the late response as I was out of the office yesterday.
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> The NCSG receives 3 travel slots (plus 6 for GNSO Councilors). Org does not specify how they are to be used, that would go to the NCSG travel procedures. NPOC & NCUC also receive 3 travel slots for their own ECs.
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> Thank you!
> Kind Regards,
> Andrea
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> On 6/25/24, 04:26, "Johan Helsingius" <julf at Julf.com <mailto:julf at Julf.com> <mailto:julf at Julf.com <mailto:julf at Julf.com>>> wrote:
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> Hi Andrea,
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> Can you help clarify - are the 3 NCSG EC travel slots allocated to
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> On 25/06/2024 10:24, farzaneh badii wrote:
>> If that was the case then the governance of it should have been at the
>> NCSG level like the council is. But it is not. Each constituency
>> appoints their own reps and nobody can tell them how they allocated
>> their slots.
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>> Farzaneh
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>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:14 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>> wrote:
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>> The way I see it is that the slots are intended for EC members, and once
>> on the EC, the members really represent NCSG, not NCUC/NPOC.
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>> Julf
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>> On 25/06/2024 09:14, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>> I disagree with your interpretation Julf of the operating
>> procedures. I
>>> find it dangerous to allocate one constituency EC travel slot to
>>> another, I also think as a matter of transparency we should
>> announce the
>>> travel slot available on the NCSG mailing list and ask NCUC
>> members who
>>> also could be the members of NPOC to apply. I don’t understand
>> what the
>>> problem is with opening this up. And no I don’t think NPOC NCSG
>> EC reps
>>> should decide for NCUC NCSG EC reps travel slots. We open it up,
>> Tapani
>>> can apply.
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>>> Farzaneh
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>>> On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:54 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>
>>> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com> <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>>> wrote:
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>>> On 25/06/2024 07:48, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC wrote:
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>>>> I believe these two travel slots belong to NCUC NCSG EC
>> reps. I
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>>>> the best course of action here is to provide an
>> opportunity for NCUC
>>>> members to apply.
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>>> Reading the NCSG Operating Procedures rules for NCSG
>>> Travel Slot Transfer,
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>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310 <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310&gt;>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310 <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310>>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-996937310&gt;&gt;>>
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>>> 1. The NCSG receives the following travel slots per meeting:
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>>> a. At the annual Policy Forum and the annual Community
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>>> the NCSG receives 6 slots for Council members, and 3
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>>> for NCSG Executive Committee members, being a total of 9
>>> travel slots.
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>>> b. At the Annual General Meeting, the NCSG receives
>> travel slots
>>> for all incoming and outgoing Councilors (a minimum
>> of 6 slots
>>> and a maximum of 9 slots, depending on whether or not new
>>> persons are rotating into the Council) as well as 3
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>>> slots to be allocated to the to NCSG Executive Committee.
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>>> So the 3 travel slots belong to the EC. Usually one slot is for
>>> the (incoming) chair, and one each to a NCUC and a NPOC rep. Only
>>> if EC members are unable to use the slots are they offered to
>>> the wider membership. In this case two of the four EC reps
>>> can use the slots - but they both happen to be from NPOC.
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>>> Julf
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