[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Board seat 14 mediation - participants?

Wed May 10 08:55:27 EEST 2023

Thanks Bruna.

I was there during the interview. That was why I said our response should
be the previous stance. We didn't find their candidate suitable.

Since CSG has called for mediation and refused to accommodate other names
for the board seat, so a strategy would be suggesting a neutral committee
to interview the incumbent and their candidate. And that will also help
guide the notion that the incumbent did not perform well.

Regards.

On Wed, 10 May 2023, 02:16 Bruna Martins dos Santos, <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi, Akinremi. Just to clarify something: we have agreed to and interviewed
> their suggestion/candidate for the board seat.
>
> At the time, Julf provided CSG leadership with a clear assessment from the
> ones of us who happened to be at the interview explaining how we thought
> the candidate did not fulfill the requirements. The issue is that we have
> reached a deadlock bc CSG refuses to present a new name, interview the
> other candidate suggested by us and now they have suggested the mediation.
>
> Best,
> Bruna
>
> Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com> schrieb am Di. 9. Mai 2023
> um 17:54:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> It is obvious that the friend from the other house already have a
>> position. We need to agree on a position before entering the meeting.
>>
>> Comparing the incumbent with someone not yet ripe for the board is sort
>> of amazing to me. It would be good to hear from them how they rate their
>> preferred candidate and with what yardstick.
>>
>> Our position should be the previous stance.
>>
>>  However, it would be good to interview the incumbent and other to
>> determine who should be selected.
>>
>> Nomcom uses the same method. Let there be a neutral committee setup from
>> from both house with criteria defined.
>>
>> My 2cent.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 May 2023, 8:30 pm David Morar, <davidcristianmorar at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If Bruna and Tomslin could do it, that would be great! For the next
>>> meeting, I think we should figure out a way to have NCSG, NCUC and NPOC
>>> represented, so that we have good balance, or if folks think that Julf,
>>> Bruna and Tomslin works, we can leave it at that!
>>>
>>> *David Morar, PhD*
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 12:12 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can definitely help on this, Julf. And would suggest we maybe bring
>>>> Tomslin in as well?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <
>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lori wants to bring Mason and  Phillipe to our mediation set-up
>>>>> meeting.
>>>>> Do we want to pick co-negotiators at short notice, or are you OK with
>>>>> me
>>>>> facing them alone? Going forward it would make sense to have one
>>>>> person
>>>>> from each constituency (with NCSG counting as one).
>>>>>
>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: Are you invited other NCSG'ers tomorrow?
>>>>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 17:59:45 +0200
>>>>> From: Johan Helsingius <julf.helsingius at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Lori Schulman <lschulman at inta.org>
>>>>> CC: Melissa Allgood <melissa.allgood at icann.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lori,
>>>>>
>>>>> 8000 people on site is indeed an impressively big meeting!
>>>>>
>>>>> I know what a hassle it is to prepare for a trip like that,
>>>>> and i appreciate you taking the time to get the moderation
>>>>> started.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was assuming it would be just you, me and Melissa at this point,
>>>>> so I haven't invited anyone else. It is a bit of a short notice
>>>>> to get the right people to join, so I might keep it at just me
>>>>> from our side, but I have no issue with Phillipe and Mason joining
>>>>> us.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Julf
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/05/2023 13:49, Lori Schulman wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Julf,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hope you are well.  I am getting ready to fly off to INTA’s Annual
>>>>> > Meeting in Singapore.  We expect 8,000 on site.  It’s been a
>>>>> whirlwind.
>>>>> > Meanwhile, I am wondering if you are inviting other members of your
>>>>> > ExCom to the call tomorrow? I had originally thought that it might
>>>>> be
>>>>> > best if you and I met alone with Melissa so we can ask questions
>>>>> about
>>>>> > process and parameters and set the framework for moving forward.
>>>>> > However, given that I will be out of pocket until May 30, I am
>>>>> thinking
>>>>> > of inviting whoever can make it from the CSG Excomm.  I did not want
>>>>> to
>>>>> > surprise you with more participants if you had not contemplated the
>>>>> > same.  Please let me know.  I was thinking of at least asking Mason
>>>>> and
>>>>> > Phillipe.  LMK.
>>>>> >
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>
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>
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