[NCSG-EC] Fwd: NCSG membership applications

Johan Helsingius julf at Julf.com
Tue Nov 22 21:20:21 EET 2022


Thanks David! We have two kind of separate issues here - one is the
longer term way forward, and the other is the immediate need to
deal with the current embarrassing backlog.

	Julf


On 22/11/2022 17:58, David Morar wrote:
> I am torn on this. I think having the system is useful, but if it's 
> crummy, maybe we're better off without it?
> I am the least technical person in our group, I think, so it's entirely 
> up to you all.
> 
> Thank you very much,
> Have a great week,
> David
> 
> David Morar, PhD
> @morar <https://twitter.com/morar>
> davidmorar.com <http://davidmorar.com/>
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:52 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC 
> <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
> 
>     No opinions?
> 
>              Julf
> 
> 
> 
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: [NCSG-EC] NCSG membership applications
>     Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:51:08 +0100
>     From: Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is
>     <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>>
>     Reply-To: Johan Helsingius <julf at Julf.com>
>     To: NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>>
> 
>     Dear EC,
> 
>     Tapani volunteered to look into CiviCRM, and has given me an
>     admin account too. With his help, I managed to dump the data
>     as a CSV file, and wrote a simple (n)awk script to format it
>     in a more readable form. The results are attached, in both Word
>     and ASCII text form.
> 
>     Many of the applications seem to lack the domain name information,
>     but for individual users that is not a show stopper.
> 
>     How do you want to proceed? We could use CiviCRM/terminal to
>     gather your (revised) views, but unfortunately it only allows
>     for "Yes" or "No", not "Maybe, if they can provide <whatever>",
>     or we could just email our opinions as a list of applications
>     we don't approve (and why). What do you think is easier?
> 
>     As to CiviCRM, my impression of it, as a former software
>     developer, is that it would perform well as a vacuum cleaner.
>     Seems the vendor would need exact specifications for any changes
>     we need even to provide a cost estimate. It also seems the
>     software actually has to be updated any time the EC changes...
> 
>              Julf
> 
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