[NCSG-EC] Nomination period for councillors

Sun May 31 13:25:37 EEST 2020

If I don't get an opposing response to this email by 12 UTC, I will
announce the extension until 23.59PST.

-Raoul

On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 19:33, Raoul Plommer <plommer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great, I think we are unanimous now so let's quickly announce the
> extension to the deadline :)
>
> -Raoul
>
> On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 18:29, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> While I’m leery of making up processes on the fly, I believe a reasonable
>> compromise could be to extend the nomination period until 05/25/20 Monday
>> 23.59 PST as Raoul suggests.  Of course, this is provided that, as Raphael
>> suggests, we can stick to our timeline in terms of voting, announcing
>> results, etc, so hopefully Maryam can confirm that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think I have a strong view one way or another, there are good
>> arguments on both sides. I'm fine with any outcome as long as it keeps us
>> on schedule, and that we make the process and rationale clear to the
>> membership.
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 8:48 AM Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's extend the nomination period until Monday 23.59 PST and try to get
>>> through this with a normal election. If we don't get more candidates in
>>> that time, we'll appoint after.
>>>
>>> -Raoul
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 20:28, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Steph.  Yes, I do think we continue with our election timeline
>>>> as agreed and ask for candidate statements to fill those appointed slots.
>>>> I don’t think we need to wait until after the election to make that usual
>>>> request for candidates from our membership since we know now that we need
>>>> to fill them.  Anyone who was too timid to nominate during the nomination
>>>> period can send in their candidate statement to the EC for appointment.  It
>>>> is a shame that they did not nominate during the nomination process, but
>>>> they can still get on via appointment.  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> On May 29, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <
>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Extending to Monday to accept the nominations that a participant on the
>>>> call said were standing by, need not extend the timeline.  We do believe in
>>>> elections first.  The timelines are decided by this group in consultation
>>>> with staff, according to ICANN requirements, but I would point out that
>>>> ICANN announced elections to be held a month earlier in order to
>>>> accommodate travel schedules.  We are almost certain we are holding a
>>>> virtual meeting again, so even if we did go over time, there would be no
>>>> impact on other stakeholders.
>>>>
>>>> I was seeking your views, not proposing violating the charter.  Members
>>>> were upset by the fact that Elsa did not turn down the nomination in time
>>>> for them to nominate others.  As I have said before, the more the merrier.
>>>> If people want the positions, they ought to compete.  But there we are.
>>>> Plenty of time for people to put their names forward and send in a
>>>> candidate statement, if we closed Monday.  But if you prefer to appoint
>>>> people, how do you propose we run that process, wait until the election is
>>>> over and then just appoint the number of councillors required, through a
>>>> submission of names process?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stephanie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2020-05-29 1:06 p.m., Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Raphael,
>>>>
>>>> The charter provides that when there is a vacancy on the Council, the
>>>> NCSG EC appoints that position.  Since we do not have enough candidates to
>>>> fill the slots, we have vacancies.  Those vacancies should be appointed by
>>>> the NCSG EC as usual.  If there are candidates who wish to fill those
>>>> seats, they should make us aware of it and we can appoint them asap.  I’m
>>>> not in favor of extending the nomination period until there are sufficient
>>>> candidates.  The nomination process has ended and the voting is about to
>>>> begin according to our timeline.  We need to get those slots filled so the
>>>> folks can assume those positions asap and the membership can focus on
>>>> things other than constant elections.  Also, others in ICANN shouldn’t have
>>>> to wait for NCSG to fill the slots by more protracted means, which would
>>>> not even guarantee we have nominations at the end and we would be back to
>>>> where we are now.  We are part of a larger community and others depend on
>>>> us to operate according to anticipated timelines and documented processes.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> On May 29, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <
>>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Robin
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting we appoint someone? I'm not sure what part of the
>>>> charter you are referring to. I could not find language in the charter that
>>>> fits our current circumstances, that is a defacto vacancy for lack of
>>>> candidates. There is the second paragraph of 3.2, but that seems to be
>>>> limited to a vacancy during the term of a councilor, as we did with
>>>> Farzaneh if I remember correctly. I might have missed the relevant language
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, please don't misinterpret my question; I'm not suggesting
>>>> we should be fighting over the meaning of Charter words! Whether mandated
>>>> or not, I'd be fine appointing someone, but ideally I would prefer us to be
>>>> clear on why we are doing what we decide to do.
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:11 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m strongly in favor of following what the charter dictates in this
>>>>> instance and therefore we should do our duty and make the appointment as
>>>>> directed by our foundational document.  Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>
>>>>> > On May 29, 2020, at 7:22 as AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <
>>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Those who were on the call today will know that Elsa has indicated
>>>>> she is not running for Council again this year.  We are thus short of
>>>>> candidates, having only three (Julf, Juan, and myself) for 4 positions.
>>>>> This is far from ideal, and it was pointed out by one member on the call
>>>>> that there were other people who were willing to come forward.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Is it your wish that we open up nominations again for a couple of
>>>>> days, or just leave the EC to appoint?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Stephanie
>>>>> >
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