[NCSG-EC] Nomination period for councillors

Sat May 30 19:33:17 EEST 2020

Great, I think we are unanimous now so let's quickly announce the extension
to the deadline :)

-Raoul

On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 18:29, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
wrote:

> While I’m leery of making up processes on the fly, I believe a reasonable
> compromise could be to extend the nomination period until 05/25/20 Monday
> 23.59 PST as Raoul suggests.  Of course, this is provided that, as Raphael
> suggests, we can stick to our timeline in terms of voting, announcing
> results, etc, so hopefully Maryam can confirm that.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
>
> On May 30, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> I don't think I have a strong view one way or another, there are good
> arguments on both sides. I'm fine with any outcome as long as it keeps us
> on schedule, and that we make the process and rationale clear to the
> membership.
>
> Have a nice day!
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 8:48 AM Raoul Plommer via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> Let's extend the nomination period until Monday 23.59 PST and try to get
>> through this with a normal election. If we don't get more candidates in
>> that time, we'll appoint after.
>>
>> -Raoul
>>
>> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 20:28, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Steph.  Yes, I do think we continue with our election timeline
>>> as agreed and ask for candidate statements to fill those appointed slots.
>>> I don’t think we need to wait until after the election to make that usual
>>> request for candidates from our membership since we know now that we need
>>> to fill them.  Anyone who was too timid to nominate during the nomination
>>> period can send in their candidate statement to the EC for appointment.  It
>>> is a shame that they did not nominate during the nomination process, but
>>> they can still get on via appointment.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>> Extending to Monday to accept the nominations that a participant on the
>>> call said were standing by, need not extend the timeline.  We do believe in
>>> elections first.  The timelines are decided by this group in consultation
>>> with staff, according to ICANN requirements, but I would point out that
>>> ICANN announced elections to be held a month earlier in order to
>>> accommodate travel schedules.  We are almost certain we are holding a
>>> virtual meeting again, so even if we did go over time, there would be no
>>> impact on other stakeholders.
>>>
>>> I was seeking your views, not proposing violating the charter.  Members
>>> were upset by the fact that Elsa did not turn down the nomination in time
>>> for them to nominate others.  As I have said before, the more the merrier.
>>> If people want the positions, they ought to compete.  But there we are.
>>> Plenty of time for people to put their names forward and send in a
>>> candidate statement, if we closed Monday.  But if you prefer to appoint
>>> people, how do you propose we run that process, wait until the election is
>>> over and then just appoint the number of councillors required, through a
>>> submission of names process?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Stephanie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2020-05-29 1:06 p.m., Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Raphael,
>>>
>>> The charter provides that when there is a vacancy on the Council, the
>>> NCSG EC appoints that position.  Since we do not have enough candidates to
>>> fill the slots, we have vacancies.  Those vacancies should be appointed by
>>> the NCSG EC as usual.  If there are candidates who wish to fill those
>>> seats, they should make us aware of it and we can appoint them asap.  I’m
>>> not in favor of extending the nomination period until there are sufficient
>>> candidates.  The nomination process has ended and the voting is about to
>>> begin according to our timeline.  We need to get those slots filled so the
>>> folks can assume those positions asap and the membership can focus on
>>> things other than constant elections.  Also, others in ICANN shouldn’t have
>>> to wait for NCSG to fill the slots by more protracted means, which would
>>> not even guarantee we have nominations at the end and we would be back to
>>> where we are now.  We are part of a larger community and others depend on
>>> us to operate according to anticipated timelines and documented processes.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <
>>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robin
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting we appoint someone? I'm not sure what part of the
>>> charter you are referring to. I could not find language in the charter that
>>> fits our current circumstances, that is a defacto vacancy for lack of
>>> candidates. There is the second paragraph of 3.2, but that seems to be
>>> limited to a vacancy during the term of a councilor, as we did with
>>> Farzaneh if I remember correctly. I might have missed the relevant language
>>> though.
>>>
>>> In any case, please don't misinterpret my question; I'm not suggesting
>>> we should be fighting over the meaning of Charter words! Whether mandated
>>> or not, I'd be fine appointing someone, but ideally I would prefer us to be
>>> clear on why we are doing what we decide to do.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:11 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m strongly in favor of following what the charter dictates in this
>>>> instance and therefore we should do our duty and make the appointment as
>>>> directed by our foundational document.  Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>> > On May 29, 2020, at 7:22 as AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <
>>>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi folks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Those who were on the call today will know that Elsa has indicated
>>>> she is not running for Council again this year.  We are thus short of
>>>> candidates, having only three (Julf, Juan, and myself) for 4 positions.
>>>> This is far from ideal, and it was pointed out by one member on the call
>>>> that there were other people who were willing to come forward.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is it your wish that we open up nominations again for a couple of
>>>> days, or just leave the EC to appoint?
>>>> >
>>>> > Stephanie
>>>> >
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