[NCSG-EC] Nomination period for councillors

Sat May 30 15:47:41 EEST 2020

Let's extend the nomination period until Monday 23.59 PST and try to get
through this with a normal election. If we don't get more candidates in
that time, we'll appoint after.

-Raoul

On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 20:28, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
wrote:

> Thanks, Steph.  Yes, I do think we continue with our election timeline as
> agreed and ask for candidate statements to fill those appointed slots.  I
> don’t think we need to wait until after the election to make that usual
> request for candidates from our membership since we know now that we need
> to fill them.  Anyone who was too timid to nominate during the nomination
> period can send in their candidate statement to the EC for appointment.  It
> is a shame that they did not nominate during the nomination process, but
> they can still get on via appointment.  Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Robin
>
> On May 29, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
> Extending to Monday to accept the nominations that a participant on the
> call said were standing by, need not extend the timeline.  We do believe in
> elections first.  The timelines are decided by this group in consultation
> with staff, according to ICANN requirements, but I would point out that
> ICANN announced elections to be held a month earlier in order to
> accommodate travel schedules.  We are almost certain we are holding a
> virtual meeting again, so even if we did go over time, there would be no
> impact on other stakeholders.
>
> I was seeking your views, not proposing violating the charter.  Members
> were upset by the fact that Elsa did not turn down the nomination in time
> for them to nominate others.  As I have said before, the more the merrier.
> If people want the positions, they ought to compete.  But there we are.
> Plenty of time for people to put their names forward and send in a
> candidate statement, if we closed Monday.  But if you prefer to appoint
> people, how do you propose we run that process, wait until the election is
> over and then just appoint the number of councillors required, through a
> submission of names process?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stephanie
>
>
> On 2020-05-29 1:06 p.m., Robin Gross via NCSG-EC wrote:
>
> Hi Raphael,
>
> The charter provides that when there is a vacancy on the Council, the NCSG
> EC appoints that position.  Since we do not have enough candidates to fill
> the slots, we have vacancies.  Those vacancies should be appointed by the
> NCSG EC as usual.  If there are candidates who wish to fill those seats,
> they should make us aware of it and we can appoint them asap.  I’m not in
> favor of extending the nomination period until there are sufficient
> candidates.  The nomination process has ended and the voting is about to
> begin according to our timeline.  We need to get those slots filled so the
> folks can assume those positions asap and the membership can focus on
> things other than constant elections.  Also, others in ICANN shouldn’t have
> to wait for NCSG to fill the slots by more protracted means, which would
> not even guarantee we have nominations at the end and we would be back to
> where we are now.  We are part of a larger community and others depend on
> us to operate according to anticipated timelines and documented processes.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
> On May 29, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <
> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Robin
>
> Are you suggesting we appoint someone? I'm not sure what part of the
> charter you are referring to. I could not find language in the charter that
> fits our current circumstances, that is a defacto vacancy for lack of
> candidates. There is the second paragraph of 3.2, but that seems to be
> limited to a vacancy during the term of a councilor, as we did with
> Farzaneh if I remember correctly. I might have missed the relevant language
> though.
>
> In any case, please don't misinterpret my question; I'm not suggesting we
> should be fighting over the meaning of Charter words! Whether mandated or
> not, I'd be fine appointing someone, but ideally I would prefer us to be
> clear on why we are doing what we decide to do.
>
> Have a nice day!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:11 PM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <
> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>
>> I’m strongly in favor of following what the charter dictates in this
>> instance and therefore we should do our duty and make the appointment as
>> directed by our foundational document.  Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>> > On May 29, 2020, at 7:22 as AM, Stephanie E Perrin via NCSG-EC <
>> ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > Those who were on the call today will know that Elsa has indicated she
>> is not running for Council again this year.  We are thus short of
>> candidates, having only three (Julf, Juan, and myself) for 4 positions.
>> This is far from ideal, and it was pointed out by one member on the call
>> that there were other people who were willing to come forward.
>> >
>> > Is it your wish that we open up nominations again for a couple of days,
>> or just leave the EC to appoint?
>> >
>> > Stephanie
>> >
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