[NCSG-EC] Regarding your recent interventions on the NCSG mailing list and social media

Stephanie E Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Wed Jun 3 00:41:51 EEST 2020


good with me, and i apologize for re-responding to him, a whole flood of 
more email came in after I did it.  I was trying to respond to Amr's 
calling out of NCSG leadership for not shutting this behaviour down.

I am in low bandwidth land....

cheers Steph

On 2020-06-02 5:21 p.m., Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote:
> Good with me. It's indeed a high risk situation...
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 5:20 PM Robin Gross <robin at ipjustice.org 
> <mailto:robin at ipjustice.org>> wrote:
>
>     I propose that we moderate his posts to the discuss list beginning
>     immediately.  Rafik has the necessary rights and is ready to do it
>     for us.
>
>     He can post on substantive policy, but these accusations, threats,
>     and rants will no longer be posted is my proposal.
>
>     Please respond ASAP.
>
>     Best,
>     Robin
>
>>     On Jun 2, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via
>>     NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
>>
>>     Aaaand he just complained about the email, on Twitter.
>>     https://twitter.com/thevaibhavag/status/1267924627071909901
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 4:58 PM Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix
>>     <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I suppose the EC list has limited posting privileges, so
>>         putting his answer here.
>>
>>         ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>         From: *Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO*
>>         <va at bladebrains.com <mailto:va at bladebrains.com>>
>>         Date: Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 4:55 PM
>>         Subject: Re: Regarding your recent interventions on the NCSG
>>         mailing list and social media
>>         To: Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>>
>>         Cc: NCSG EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is
>>         <mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>>
>>
>>
>>         Thanks For the threat.
>>
>>         Let me know if a warning has been issued to Muller. And What
>>         action has been taken on my complaint. By the look of it -
>>         you email is targeted, based and the approach on the subject
>>         matter is dubious. Which is in total contraventions of the
>>         ICANN Charter. The NCSG Charter is not to be read - Legally
>>         Alone - It has to be Qua the ICANN charter.
>>
>>         It is imperative to believe on the Charter in both Letter and
>>         Spirit.
>>
>>         As far as my actions in my personal capacity are - it is my
>>         business and the parties involved. Since you chose to bring
>>         it up here and document it as a reason under pressure - I
>>         thank you for this that the NCSG is willing to go against the
>>         Charter, you are willing to arm twist me.
>>
>>         Let me know.
>>
>>         -VA
>>
>>
>>         > On Jun 3, 2020, at 1:59 AM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix
>>         <rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         > Vaibhav,
>>         >
>>         > We are writing to you regarding the post you made on the
>>         NCSG mailing list today at 11:50 EST in the "NCSG Election
>>         Clarifications" thread, as well as a tweet from your personal
>>         Twitter account posted today at 3:11pm EST.
>>         >
>>         > After reviewing the content of your post and your tweet, we
>>         find them to be in violation of both the NCSG Charter and the
>>         ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior.
>>         >
>>         > Article 1.2 d) of the NCSG Charter reads as follows:
>>         > "Behavioral expectations of all NCSG members, include
>>         without limitation: adhering to ICANN Bylaws/Policies;
>>         supporting the bottom-up consensus model; treating others
>>         with dignity, respect, and courtesy; listening attentively
>>         and seeking to understand others; acting with honesty,
>>         sincerity, and integrity."
>>         >
>>         > Your recent interventions on the mailing list, both before
>>         and after the two problematic interventions mentioned above,
>>         are generally borderline regarding these Charter
>>         committments, but those two specifically referred here
>>         constitute a direct violation of the Charter.
>>         >
>>         > In that regard, we ask you to
>>         > 1) withdraw all the personal attacks, accusations and
>>         threats you made in on list and on social media,
>>         > 2) refrain from any further language that could be in
>>         violation of the NCSG Charter, both on list and on social media,
>>         > 2) engage with the mailing list solely on policy matters
>>         until the elections are complete, that is until results are
>>         announced on or after the 17th of June.
>>         >
>>         > More generally we also invite you to reconsider how you
>>         understand your engagement with NCSG.
>>         >
>>         > Any future failure to abide by any of the three points
>>         above, or any future behavior in violation of the NCSG
>>         Charter, could lead to your immediate suspension from the
>>         mailing list and a further review of your membership status
>>         by the NCSG Executive Committee.
>>         >
>>         > We thank you in advance for your cooperation on this matter.
>>         >
>>         > Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix, on behalf of the NCSG Executive
>>         Committee
>>
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