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<p>good with me, and i apologize for re-responding to him, a whole
flood of more email came in after I did it. I was trying to
respond to Amr's calling out of NCSG leadership for not shutting
this behaviour down.</p>
<p>I am in low bandwidth land....</p>
<p>cheers Steph<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-06-02 5:21 p.m., Raphael
Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Good with me. It's indeed a high risk situation...</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 5:20 PM
Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" moz-do-not-send="true">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">I propose that we
moderate his posts to the discuss list beginning
immediately. Rafik has the necessary rights and is ready to
do it for us.
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<div>He can post on substantive policy, but these
accusations, threats, and rants will no longer be posted
is my proposal.</div>
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<div>Please respond ASAP.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div>Robin<br>
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<div>On Jun 2, 2020, at 2:06 PM, Raphael
Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Aaaand he just complained about the
email, on Twitter. <a href="https://twitter.com/thevaibhavag/status/1267924627071909901" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://twitter.com/thevaibhavag/status/1267924627071909901</a>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 2,
2020 at 4:58 PM Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix
<<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I suppose the EC list has
limited posting privileges, so putting his
answer here.<br>
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Forwarded message ---------<br>
From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst
& Group CEO</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">va@bladebrains.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 4:55 PM<br>
Subject: Re: Regarding your recent
interventions on the NCSG mailing list
and social media<br>
To: Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: NCSG EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
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Thanks For the threat. <br>
<br>
Let me know if a warning has been issued
to Muller. And What action has been taken
on my complaint. By the look of it - you
email is targeted, based and the approach
on the subject matter is dubious. Which is
in total contraventions of the ICANN
Charter. The NCSG Charter is not to be
read - Legally Alone - It has to be Qua
the ICANN charter.<br>
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It is imperative to believe on the Charter
in both Letter and Spirit. <br>
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As far as my actions in my personal
capacity are - it is my business and the
parties involved. Since you chose to bring
it up here and document it as a reason
under pressure - I thank you for this that
the NCSG is willing to go against the
Charter, you are willing to arm twist me.
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Let me know. <br>
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-VA<br>
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> On Jun 3, 2020, at 1:59 AM, Raphael
Beauregard-Lacroix <<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Vaibhav,<br>
> <br>
> We are writing to you regarding the
post you made on the NCSG mailing list
today at 11:50 EST in the "NCSG Election
Clarifications" thread, as well as a tweet
from your personal Twitter account posted
today at 3:11pm EST. <br>
> <br>
> After reviewing the content of your
post and your tweet, we find them to be in
violation of both the NCSG Charter and the
ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior.<br>
> <br>
> Article 1.2 d) of the NCSG Charter
reads as follows:<br>
> "Behavioral expectations of all NCSG
members, include without limitation:
adhering to ICANN Bylaws/Policies;
supporting the bottom-up consensus model;
treating others with dignity, respect, and
courtesy; listening attentively and
seeking to understand others; acting with
honesty, sincerity, and integrity."<br>
> <br>
> Your recent interventions on the
mailing list, both before and after the
two problematic interventions mentioned
above, are generally borderline regarding
these Charter committments, but those two
specifically referred here constitute a
direct violation of the Charter.<br>
> <br>
> In that regard, we ask you to <br>
> 1) withdraw all the personal attacks,
accusations and threats you made in on
list and on social media,<br>
> 2) refrain from any further language
that could be in violation of the NCSG
Charter, both on list and on social media,<br>
> 2) engage with the mailing list
solely on policy matters until the
elections are complete, that is until
results are announced on or after the 17th
of June. <br>
> <br>
> More generally we also invite you to
reconsider how you understand your
engagement with NCSG. <br>
> <br>
> Any future failure to abide by any of
the three points above, or any future
behavior in violation of the NCSG Charter,
could lead to your immediate suspension
from the mailing list and a further review
of your membership status by the NCSG
Executive Committee.<br>
> <br>
> We thank you in advance for your
cooperation on this matter.<br>
> <br>
> Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix, on behalf
of the NCSG Executive Committee<br>
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