[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Not attending ICANN66

Sat Nov 2 20:57:48 EET 2019

well it was clarified that this (selection of alternate or proxy) is an EC decision.   Which is odd when you think about it, because it is a matter of council representation, and councillors are members of the Policy Committee, but I guess the Charter design was (as always) to ensure independence of council member designation (i.e. they cannot stack their own deck).

So we had a discussion at breakfast and went with Sam as alternate.  time constraints kicked in.

SP

On 2019-11-02 12:55, Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC wrote:
I'd be glad to chip in but honestly I can't really tell what I'm asked to decide on. It seems everyone agree that Sam should be alternate, so? Is it just a rubber stamp matter?

Thx for your lights

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 12:22 Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is<mailto:ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>> wrote:
Right. I just do not want to tromp roughshod over Elsa’s preferences.  I made the call without consulting, being confident that NPOC would appreciate an opportunity to be represented by an active member.
I will therefore refer this to the EC.  Let me know soonest, guys ( in cc) as I don’t want to miss getting the absence form in.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:53, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello

I didn’t want to get involved but seems like I have to since Rafik is on route and there is unclarity.

To prevent further disagreement: I will not be an alternate for this meeting.

1. Appointing alternate is not a PC decision as Rafik said as well. It is an EC decision.  Stephanie please take this to your EC.

2. Under no customary practice nor any procedures you have to appoint the person who got the council member funding as alternate. In fact the NCSG operating procedures about travel support allocation does not require this at all. I will dig out the link.  If other people who the EC see as qualified are willing to step up then thats fine too.

Appointment of alternate either Sam or someone else is within the EC responsibilities.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com<mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>> wrote:
No proxy is needed, if sam seats as alternate. Same with Amr in Kobe, no one had my proxy. I just forgot about sam for a split second.

On 1 Nov 2019, at 10:50, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>> wrote:

Ok I get the message.  If Martin is the proxy, then Sam cannot attend the Council meetings.  Is that clear to everyone?  He would be attending as an alternate, no alternate no attendance.  It is my understanding that if you give your proxy to Martin, he does not attend.  I stand to be corrected by veterans who know better.

Sam is all set to attend and has even asked me for other meetings he needs to attend for background.

Let me know.  I need to send that stupid form in.

Cheers Steph

On 2019-11-01 00:36, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
True, Sam!!! He is in the seat then, no proxy.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 11:09 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com<mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
I think Sam would be a good fit to be temporary alternate, as he is getting the travel slot?

Best wishes, Ayden

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On Thursday, 31. October 2019 23:23, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <mpsilvavalent at gmail.com<mailto:mpsilvavalent at gmail.com>> wrote:

I can always be the proxy if needed for the council votings.

Best,
Martín

On 31 Oct 2019, at 18:33, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com<mailto:elsa.saade at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey all,

I got an email from Nathalie about this. I will not be able to attend (might join remotely for the council meeting only to observe), but I’d like us to finalize who will be my proxy for votes?

I would appreciate your input asap before I send in my reply.

Thanks all in advance,

Elsa
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From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>>
Date: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:04 AM
Subject: Not attending ICANN66
To: Syed Ismail Shah <syedismailshah at gmail.com<mailto:syedismailshah at gmail.com>>, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com<mailto:elsa.saade at gmail.com>>, Darcy Southwell <Darcy.Southwell at endurance.com<mailto:Darcy.Southwell at endurance.com>>
CC: gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> <gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org>>

Dear Darcy, Elsa and Syed,

We’re all pretty unhappy you aren’t making it to ICANN66, whilst understanding why! ☺

In order to ensure we can assist you as best we can, would you mind replying to the below:

  *   Do you plan to attend sessions remotely, if yes, which ones?
  *   Are you assigning a proxy (fellow councilor) or temporary alternate for either the GNSO Council meeting or the duration of ICANN66? If so, please get a SG/C officer to fill in the abstention form with the exact dates needed: https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/abstention-notification-form-en.htm

Thank you! And please reach out to gnso-secs at icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> or Skype Terri or me, as we will be onsite.

Kind regards,

Nathalie

Nathalie Peregrine

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