[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Not attending ICANN66

Fri Nov 1 23:12:28 EET 2019

Well, Elsa's preference shouldn't be any more valid than Martin's was in
Kobe. Let's have consistency.

I would choose Sam as an alternate.

-Raoul

On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 18:22, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <
ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:

> Right. I just do not want to tromp roughshod over Elsa’s preferences.  I
> made the call without consulting, being confident that NPOC would
> appreciate an opportunity to be represented by an active member.
> I will therefore refer this to the EC.  Let me know soonest, guys ( in cc)
> as I don’t want to miss getting the absence form in.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:53, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello
>
> I didn’t want to get involved but seems like I have to since Rafik is on
> route and there is unclarity.
>
> To prevent further disagreement: I will not be an alternate for this
> meeting.
>
> 1. Appointing alternate is not a PC decision as Rafik said as well. It is
> an EC decision.  Stephanie please take this to your EC.
>
> 2. Under no customary practice nor any procedures you have to appoint the
> person who got the council member funding as alternate. In fact the NCSG
> operating procedures about travel support allocation does not require this
> at all. I will dig out the link.  If other people who the EC see as
> qualified are willing to step up then thats fine too.
>
> Appointment of alternate either Sam or someone else is within the EC
> responsibilities.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
> mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No proxy is needed, if sam seats as alternate. Same with Amr in Kobe, no
>> one had my proxy. I just forgot about sam for a split second.
>>
>>
>> On 1 Nov 2019, at 10:50, Stephanie Perrin <
>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Ok I get the message.  If Martin is the proxy, then Sam cannot attend the
>> Council meetings.  Is that clear to everyone?  He would be attending as an
>> alternate, no alternate no attendance.  It is my understanding that if you
>> give your proxy to Martin, he does not attend.  I stand to be corrected by
>> veterans who know better.
>>
>> Sam is all set to attend and has even asked me for other meetings he
>> needs to attend for background.
>>
>> Let me know.  I need to send that stupid form in.
>>
>> Cheers Steph
>> On 2019-11-01 00:36, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
>>
>> True, Sam!!! He is in the seat then, no proxy.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 11:09 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think Sam would be a good fit to be temporary alternate, as he is
>>> getting the travel slot?
>>>
>>> Best wishes, Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>> On Thursday, 31. October 2019 23:23, Martin Pablo Silva Valent <
>>> mpsilvavalent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I can always be the proxy if needed for the council votings.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Martín
>>>
>>> On 31 Oct 2019, at 18:33, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I got an email from Nathalie about this. I will not be able to attend
>>> (might join remotely for the council meeting only to observe), but I’d like
>>> us to finalize who will be my proxy for votes?
>>>
>>> I would appreciate your input asap before I send in my reply.
>>>
>>> Thanks all in advance,
>>>
>>> Elsa
>>> —
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: *Nathalie Peregrine* <nathalie.peregrine at icann.org>
>>> Date: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 10:04 AM
>>> Subject: Not attending ICANN66
>>> To: Syed Ismail Shah <syedismailshah at gmail.com>, Elsa S <
>>> elsa.saade at gmail.com>, Darcy Southwell <Darcy.Southwell at endurance.com>
>>> CC: gnso-secs at icann.org <gnso-secs at icann.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Darcy, Elsa and Syed,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We’re all pretty unhappy you aren’t making it to ICANN66, whilst
>>> understanding why! ☺
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In order to ensure we can assist you as best we can, would you mind
>>> replying to the below:
>>>
>>>    - Do you plan to attend sessions remotely, if yes, which ones?
>>>    - Are you assigning a proxy (fellow councilor) or temporary
>>>    alternate for either the GNSO Council meeting or the duration of ICANN66?
>>>    If so, please get a SG/C officer to fill in the abstention form with the
>>>    exact dates needed:
>>>    https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/abstention-notification-form-en.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you! And please reach out to gnso-secs at icann.org or Skype Terri
>>> or me, as we will be onsite.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathalie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nathalie Peregrine
>>>
>>> Manager, Operations Support (GNSO)
>>>
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>
>>> Email: nathalie.peregrine at icann.org
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>> --
>>> --
>>>
>>> Elsa Saade
>>> Consultant
>>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>>
>>>
>>>
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