<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Well, Elsa's preference shouldn't be any more valid than Martin's was in Kobe. Let's have consistency.<div><br></div><div>I would choose Sam as an alternate.<br><br>-Raoul</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 1 Nov 2019 at 18:22, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Right. I just do not want to tromp roughshod over Elsa’s preferences. I made the call without consulting, being confident that NPOC would appreciate an opportunity to be represented by an active member.<div>I will therefore refer this to the EC. Let me know soonest, guys ( in cc) as I don’t want to miss getting the absence form in. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 1, 2019, at 10:53, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">Hello </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I didn’t want to get involved but seems like I have to since Rafik is on route and there is unclarity. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">To prevent further disagreement: I will not be an alternate for this meeting. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1. Appointing alternate is not a PC decision as Rafik said as well. It is an EC decision. Stephanie please take this to your EC.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2. Under no customary practice nor any procedures you have to appoint the person who got the council member funding as alternate. In fact the NCSG operating procedures about travel support allocation does not require this at all. I will dig out the link. If other people who the EC see as qualified are willing to step up then thats fine too. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Appointment of alternate either Sam or someone else is within the EC responsibilities. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;">No proxy is needed, if sam seats as alternate. Same with Amr in Kobe, no one had my proxy. I just forgot about sam for a split second.</div><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 1 Nov 2019, at 10:50, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div><p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Ok I get the message. If Martin is the proxy, then Sam cannot attend the Council meetings. Is that clear to everyone? He would be attending as an alternate, no alternate no attendance. It is my understanding
that if you give your proxy to Martin, he does not attend. I stand to be corrected by veterans who know better.</font></font></p><p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Sam is all set to attend and has even asked me for other meetings he needs to attend for background.</font></font></p><p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Let me know. I need to send that stupid form in.<br>
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<div>To: Syed Ismail Shah <<a href="mailto:syedismailshah@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">syedismailshah@gmail.com</a>>, Elsa S <<a href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>>,
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<div><p><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear Darcy, Elsa and Syed,</span><br>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:11pt">We’re all pretty unhappy you aren’t making it to ICANN66, whilst understanding why!
</span><span><span style="font-size:11pt">☺</span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"></span><br>
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</p><p style="text-indent:0.25in"><span style="font-size:11pt">In order to ensure we can assist you as best we can, would you mind replying to the below:</span><br>
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<li style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt">Do you plan to attend sessions remotely, if yes, which ones?</span><br>
</li><li style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt">Are you assigning a proxy (fellow councilor) or temporary alternate for either the GNSO Council meeting or the duration of ICANN66? If so, please get a SG/C officer to fill in the abstention form with
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</p><p><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you! And please reach out to <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
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</p><p><span style="font-size:11pt">Nathalie</span><br>
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