[NCSG-EC] Temporary alternate to Johannesburg

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Hi Monika,

It turns out Michael is in same situation as Avri: he's not
traveling as NCUC EC member but as a rapporteur supported
only for two days and could use the extra hotel nights as well.

Also, all three are willing to do it.

Not an easy choice.

Tapani

On Jun 06 07:49, Zalnieriute, Monika (Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu) wrote:
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> Hi Tapani,
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> Thanks, I get the point. And what about Micheal - is he also covered - partially or fully?
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> Yes, I guess it makes sense to get Avri the hotel if we decide to appoint her,
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> What does Joan think?
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> Best wishes,
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> Monika
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> Kind regards,
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> Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
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> From: NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 7:22 AM
> To: NCSG EC
> Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Temporary alternate to Johannesburg
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> Hi Monika,
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> Avri's flights are covered, along with hotel for two days prior the
> meeting proper (when CCWG-Acct meets), but no hotel for the actual
> meeting - she could use that.
> 
> Yes, it would be good if we could find someone to offer the flight,
> but I would not worry all that much if we can't: even if it may feel
> like a loss to us, there's no point in wasting ICANN's money just so
> we get as much as possible for us.
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> And whoever we pick would have to take on the job of councillor,
> it can't be someone who'd just be useful there otherwise.
> So "strategic" use of the slot would be a bit difficult in this case.
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> But if we had someone who has enough experience to be useful and even
> more so someone who wants to engage more in the future this would be a
> good opportunity.
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> Tapani
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> On Jun 06 06:35, Zalnieriute, Monika (Monika.Zalnieriute at EUI.eu) wrote:
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> > Dear All,
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> > Yes, Avri and/or Micheal sounds good to me. Perhaps we should use the slot strategically - to cover people's travel, or then appoint an alternate who has travel but still give travel slot to someone else who needs it (as I dont think its a good idea to just to let it go).
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> > So whats Avri's situation - she is covered fro 2 days only, but flight is also covered?
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> >
> > Monika
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> > Kind regards,
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> >
> > Dr. Monika Zalnieriute
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> > Post-Doctoral Fellow @ Melbourne Law School |
> >
> > The University of Melbourne I law.unimelb.edu.au I
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> > 185 Pelham St, Carlton VIC 3053, Australia I
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> > Visiting Fellow @ Center for Media, Data and Society I
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> > Central European University I cmds.ceu.edu I
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> >
> >
> > Representative @ Executive Committee I
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> > Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group I ICANN I icann.org I
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> > ________________________________
> > From: NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec-bounces at lists.ncsg.is> on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 5:21 AM
> > To: ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is
> > Subject: Re: [NCSG-EC] Temporary alternate to Johannesburg
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> > Hi Robin,
> >
> > I believe Michael is coming to Johannesburg as NCUC EC member,
> > so travel-wise it would be an easy solution.
> >
> > Likewise Avri, who's traveling there as CCWG-Acct member (only
> > supported for two days but staying the entire meeting, she could use
> > the hotel room I believe).
> >
> > I'm sure both of them could handle the job. Poncelet's point about
> > maintaining gender balance would favour Avri, though even if we go
> > with Michael there'd still be two women.
> >
> > Another option would be Anriette Esterhausen, who lives in
> > Johannesburg - I don't know if she'd be interested but I could ask.
> >
> > Of those three, Avri would be rather obviously best qualified, and by
> > far the most experienced, but we could consider other factors, like
> > giving others a chance to get more experience.
> >
> > Any of them would make Constituency Travel happy. :-)
> >
> > But if there us someone we'd like get there who otherwise couldn't
> > and who could go and be effective in the council, we'd have a
> > travel slot available.
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> > On Jun 05 19:55, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC (ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is) wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for letting us know, Tapani. How about sending Michael
> > > Karinocolas from Canada in place of Stefania? Michael has been very
> > > active in the ICANN Accountability work, and coming from Canada, may
> > > not have a difficult time of obtaining the necessary visa to attend.
> > > I haven’t spoken with him, so don’t know his plans in this time
> > > frame - this is just a quick impression.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Robin
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> > > > On Jun 5, 2017, at 6:52 AM, Tapani Tarvainen via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec at lists.ncsg.is> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear EC,
> > > >
> > > > Stefania Milan just notified me she can't make it to the Johannesburg
> > > > meeting after all.
> > > >
> > > > That means we could and probably should appoint a temporary alternate
> > > > for her.
> > > >
> > > > Suggestions for people or for process for selecting one would be
> > > > appreciated. Note that time is short, it is not even certain we could
> > > > still reassign the travel slot, and anybody who needs visa to South
> > > > Africa and doesn't already have one is pretty much out of luck.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tapani Tarvainen