[NCSG-EC] [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process

Thu Feb 23 10:07:30 EET 2017

Hi all,

we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG quickly. at least
covering the topic of nomination.

Best,

Rafik

2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>:

> Hi Matt,
>
> thanks for the response, looking for other comments on this topic.
> I think we can start with nomination whole we work on the process and
> adjust the whole timeline.
> how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for now. shall
> we initiate a process to find other candidates? we don't have so much time
> for a long nomination period.
>
> I understand that we are having the deadline as a mean to press us but we
> should stand and be clear about the aspects which are non-negotiable with
> regard to the process.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew shears <mshears at cdt.org>:
>
>> Thanks Rafik
>>
>> Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it and we are
>> running out of time.
>>
>> First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which was not
>> really discussed further.  Then we had some general discussion about the
>> need to do something on the Board selection process.  People voiced their
>> views on different aspects of the process and there was concern over the
>> timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others please jump in as I
>> may have missed some important aspects).   Markus announced he wanted to
>> continue in the role; I announced I was going to run.  Then the CSG
>> proposal for a process was circulated on Thurs AM.  There seemed to be
>> general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal.
>>
>> I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and timeline for
>> nominations and getting that announced, so at least the initial stages of
>> the process are underway.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on board seat
>> election.
>> First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what or not agreed on
>> iceland on that regard from those who attended intersessional?
>>
>> We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points such as having
>> vote, NCA participation and so on.
>>
>> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far from our expectations.
>> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it by end of this week
>> but we do need to be ready.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>> Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM
>> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process
>> To: <ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org>
>> Cc:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We probably need a different mailing list to finish working on the Board
>> Seat selection process, and a small group to do it, but I'll start here,
>> since I think this is the only active mailing list with both sides of the
>> NCPH on it.
>>
>> We basically have no time to work this out, and we've already started the
>> process without knowing what it is exactly, since we have now received
>> nominations.
>>
>> In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously
>> circulated, I'm also attaching the following for consideration:
>>
>> 1.  Some bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG
>> representatives outlining a potential draft process.
>> 2.  The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised draft
>> timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and GNSO Procedures.
>> 3.  A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which covers
>> the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the
>> Bylaws), and Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f).
>>
>> A few thoughts and comments:
>>
>> A.  We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a process
>> that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to go through).  Talk about
>> building the airplane in the air.
>>
>> B.  At the Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to the
>> timeline, but did not come to any decisions.  It's not clear to me whether
>> Staff is preparing a further revised draft.  I'll ask.
>>
>> C.  If any of our groups have not already done so, we should put out a
>> call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would be nice to know the
>> end of the nomination period).
>>
>> D.  Without making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH
>> bullet-points are significantly different when it comes to voting.
>>
>> E.  We should figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly as
>> possible.  Given the unusual circumstances, we don't need to use this
>> process as precedent for any future process.  We just need to get through
>> this selection.  One approach is for NCSG to respond to the draft sent at
>> the end of the Intersessional.  However, given the gap between that and the
>> bullet-points, it might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect
>> session ASAP to move the ball forward.
>>
>> Thanks for reading,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> P.S.  It's not all that important how we got here, but nonetheless, it
>> should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were never updated from 2012, when
>> the Bylaws deadline for naming the Director was changed from one month to
>> two months (briefly) and then six months prior to being seated.  (The GNSO
>> Procedures will need to be updated in any event, since the Bylaws
>> references are now obsolete.))  The draft bullet-points repeated this error.
>>
>> B.  Since we are doing this with very little time
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428
>> S: gsshatan
>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428
>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM
>> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection Process
>> To: ncph-intersessional2017 at icann.org
>>
>>
>> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants,
>>
>> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed interim Board
>> Selection Process based closely on the Final Process adopted by the
>> Contracted Parties House.  Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing
>> changes from the CPH document.
>>
>> A Google Docs version can be found here, where any suggested changes can
>> be added in "suggest" mode (but everyone has "edit" rights):
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPp
>> nL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat process and
>> then revisit afterward before making it a permanent rather than "interim"
>> process.
>>
>> This has not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC and ISPCP,
>> but we wanted to start the discussion on this basis, given the short amount
>> of time we have for this year.
>>
>> We look forward to your thoughts.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams)
>>
>>
>> *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <%28917%29%20816-6428>
>> S: gsshatan
>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428 <%28646%29%20845-9428>
>> gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>
>>
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