[EC-NCSG] Fwd: personal/individual request in name of NCSG

Sun Aug 23 16:49:03 EEST 2015

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From: Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>
Date: 2015-08-23 21:54 GMT+09:00
Subject: Re: [EC-NCSG] personal/individual request in name of NCSG
To: Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>, "rudi. vansnick" <
rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
Cc: Ec-NCSG mail list <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>

Thanks Rafik and apologies for the delay in my response - August is an
extremely busy month for me professionally and I'm behind a bit on my ICANN
obligations.

Rudi, I'm sorry you've had some problems with my DIDP request. That
certainly was not my intent and I would be happy to discuss this further
with you if your misgivings remain. To clarify a few things per your posts
on the EC list:

1. The DIDP communication in no way involves the Board. The DIDP is a
request to staff to release information not already made public. The Board
is not involved.

2. Although a personal request I did give notification to the community on
the NCSG PC list on July 5th. This notification stimulated responses from
other PC members on July 6th and July 8th. I today gave an update on
progress on my DIDP to the PC list.

As Rafik and Tapani indicated this was a personal request and in no way did
I represent otherwise. DIDP requests are often made by individuals as there
is no advantage in making such a request as a group. I wanted the
information so I can better carry out my duties as an elected
representative on Council from the NCSG. It is customary in DIDP requests
to let ICANN know your position and why you want the information so they
can better tailor a response to your needs.

I'm actually quite proud of this request. The response generated is
actually historic: for the first time ever ICANN has released 3rd party
contractual information through the use of the DIDP statutory balancing
test. This is a great step forward in the battle to make ICANN a more
transparent and open organisation.

Riudi, I'm sorry my way of doing things did not meet with your approval.
I'm happy to discuss things further with you, on list or off list, to try
to reach an accommodation all are comfortable with.

Best,

Ed

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*From*: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
*Sent*: Saturday, August 15, 2015 4:54 PM
*To*: "rudi. vansnick" <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be>
*Cc*: "Ec-NCSG mail list" <ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org>, "Edward Morris" <
egmorris1 at toast.net>
*Subject*: Re: [EC-NCSG] personal/individual request in name of NCSG

Hi Rudi,

I think he was stating   his status within GNSO there  and I don't see any
mention that he did it on behalf of NCSG.

He is in cc so he can give more details.

Rafik
On Aug 16, 2015 12:49 AM, "Rudi Vansnick" <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be> wrote:
>
> Please read through the document :
>
>
> As an elected member of the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO)
> Council I am charged with ?managing the policy development process of the
> GNSO? (Bylaws, article X, section 3(4)). The GNSO Review is of particular
> concern to myself and to those I represent in the Non?-commercial
> Stakeholders Group (NCSG). Personally and collectively we have been
> troubled by the quality, or lack thereof, of work on this Review done by
> the retained independent contractor Westlake Governance Limited
> of Wellington, New Zealand (New Zealand company registration number
> 4692779). In order to properly discharge my duties as a GNSO Counselor
> representing the NCSG I am in need of further information concerning
> ICANN?s relationship with Westlake Governance.
>
>
>
> As such I, in my capacity as a member of the GNSO Council, respectfully
> request that the following documentary information be provided to me
> without delay:
>
>
> Except if my English understanding of the above fails, he did not
> explicitly said he was requesting this in a personal capacity but is
> mentioning several times he is a GNSO counselor and representing the NCSG.
>
>
> Rudi Vansnick
> Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
> www.npoc.org
>
> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>
>
>
> Op 15-aug.-2015, om 17:40 heeft Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Hi,
>
> The DIDP request is an individual request from Ed and he did that in his
> own capacity. It is not coming from NCSG.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> On Aug 16, 2015 12:17 AM, "Rudi Vansnick" <rudi.vansnick at isoc.be> wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> While reading through the ICANN news messages today I came across the
> message below.
>
>  ICANN news in your language
> Request 20150717-1, Edward Morris
> Friday, August 14 2015 08:03 PM
> Request (17 July 2015) [PDF, 432 KB] Response (14 August 2015) [PDF, 159
> KB]
> Request 20150717-1, Edward Morris | Response
> Friday, August 14 2015 08:00 PM
> Request 20150717-1, Edward Morris | Response
> As far as I?ve been able to crosscheck NCSG mailinglists, I did not see
> any discussion nor request for approval of the request send by Edward
> Morris to ICANN (board). Can someone point me to the message where the
> decision for this action was discussed and published ?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rudi Vansnick
> Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC)
> www.npoc.org
>
> rudi.vansnick at npoc.org
> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16
> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>
>
>
>
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