[Call for Volunteers] Appointment of representative and alternate to the PPSAI IRT

Tomslin Samme-Nlar mesumbeslin at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 27 18:53:17 EEST 2024 

Thanks for the comments @farzi, @Kathy, @Ponce and @Pedro.

@Pedro, you ask an important question, "*are we ... appointing volunteers
while we wait for the GNSO council to act or is it better to refuse to
nominate someone for now*? ". I wait to hear what our members think.

On the GNSO action side of things, Find my a brief of what has transpired
in the council since 2019 on this topic below but I'd also like input
from @Stephanie
Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> who is one of the council
liaisons to the PPSAI IRT:

- As a result of potential conflicts and/or overlap of work between the
PPSAI IRT and GDPR-related work in EPDP on Temp Spec, in March 2019,  ICANN
org asked the GNSO Council, “whether ICANN org should continue to delay
public comment and implementation of PPSAI or take additional steps pending
completion of the EPDP in consultation with the PPSAI Implementation Review
Team (IRT).
- Council responded to Org saying, “*given the divergent views among
Councilors* and considering the respective roles of ICANN Org in leading
implementation work of consensus policy recommendations and the PPSAI IRT
in overseeing the implementation work, the GNSO *Council considers it
appropriate to defer the decision on this issue to ICANN org and the PPSAI
IRT*, taking into account the various views of the SOs and ACs.” [emphasis
added]
- On 2 March 2021, ICANN org delivered the Wave 1.5 Report
<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/council/2021-March/024506.html> to the GNSO
Council, which included a detailed analysis of the extent to which the EPDP
Phase 1 recommendations may require modification to the PPSAI and
Translation & Transliteration policies, which are in the policy
implementation phase. Following review of the Wave 1.5 Report, the Council
observed the following in its 1 July 2021 letter [gnso.icann.org]
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/fouquart-to-lentz-01jul21-en.pdf__;!!PtGJab4!72Ceiu66uyoV0OHChjdR9frkPlBYYXnOJZ5zB8r86XzWBmEUoVf8ybKlInPdH4obWmz6r2jOJd6I6Op0U5lFnsYtCg$>
:



   - *The decision to pause the implementation of the PPSAI and Translation
   & Transliteration policy recommendations was a decision that was made by
   ICANN org, not the GNSO Council. As such, the Council is of the view that a
   decision to restart the implementation activities is not within the remit
   of the GNSO Council but for ICANN org* to make.
   - *Should any policy issues arise during the implementation of these
   policy recommendations, there are processes and procedures that allow the
   Council to further consider these*, but the Council is of the view that
   the respective Implementation Review Teams (IRTs) will be best placed to
   identify such possible issues.
   - The Council would also like to point to the letter
   <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/namazi-to-drazek-et-al-05sep19-en.pdf>
   that was sent to the Council in September 2019 in which it was noted that
   “following the completion of relevant EPDP work, ICANN org will reassess
   the existing draft PP materials in consultation with the PPSAI IRT and
   determine how to proceed with implementation of the Privacy and Proxy
   Services Accreditation Program”. From a Council’s perspective this still
   seems a relevant and timely next step.

So, as you can see, the council holds the view that if there are issues
arising in the policy as drafted during implementation, they are confident
that the issues can be addressed with existing processes and procedures.


Warmly,
Tomslin



On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 07:06, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Regarding the strategy on how to approach this problem, are we nonetheless
> appointing volunteers while we wait for the GNSO council to act or is it
> better to refuse to nominate someone for now?
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
> Researcher
> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
> Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR
> <https://isoc.org.br/> and IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
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>
>
> Em seg., 27 de mai. de 2024 às 11:35, Poncelet Ileleji <
> pileleji at jokkolabs.co> escreveu:
>
>> +1 kathy +1 Farzi, I can't agree more
>>
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>>
>> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 1:46 PM Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>
>>>  +1 to Farzi, and an Implementation Review Team (run by ICANN Staff) is
>>> hardly the place to state that the law has gone in a completely different
>>> direction since the original Policy was negotiated.  No one on  the ICANN
>>> Board or Staff feels empowered to "stop this train" although it is eight
>>> years old and badly out of date.
>>>
>>> *That power rests in the GNSO Council. Can we (NCSG), through our
>>> Councilors, call for a legal review of the proposed PPSAI for problems (if
>>> any) with its underlying legal foundation in light of the adoption of GDPR
>>> and over half the countries of the world now following the European
>>> "comprehensive right of privacy"? *
>>>
>>> Best and asking all of our current Councilors (past and future ones
>>> too),
>>>
>>> Kathy
>>> On 5/27/2024 9:26 AM, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tomslin,
>>>
>>> This is a bit odd. Didn’t we discuss that most of those policy
>>> recommendations were outdated and could not be implemented? Are they hoping
>>> that by doing the IRT we can undertake feasibility for the recommendations?
>>>
>>> This is why I did suggest considering time limits for implementing
>>> policies. You can’t come up with a policy and then want to enforce it 8
>>> years later! Especially in the technology space, that is not possible.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Farzaneh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 5:53 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <
>>> mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear members,
>>>>
>>>> There is a request from Org for SG/Cs to appoint a representative and
>>>> an alternate to the PPSAI IRT. We (NCSG) had concerns with the IRT going
>>>> ahead but as you can see, Org is still going ahead with it.
>>>>
>>>> NCSG is seeking a representative and an alternate. Please read below
>>>> for details of the role of the representative and on what the IRT will be
>>>> doing.
>>>>
>>>> Send your EOI to me (mesumbeslin at gmail.com) copying Julf (julf at julf.com)
>>>> and Andrea (andrea.glandon at icann.org) no later than Friday May 31st
>>>> 2023 for the policy committee's review.
>>>>
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Tomslin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject:        [GNSO-SG-C-Leadership] Appointment of representative
>>>> and
>>>> alternate to the PPSAI IRT
>>>> Date:   Tue, 21 May 2024 19:59:02 +0000
>>>> From:   Dennis Chang via GNSO-SG-C-Leadership
>>>> <gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org>
>>>> Reply-To:       Dennis Chang <dennis.chang at icann.org>
>>>> To:     gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org <gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org>
>>>> CC:     Leon Grundmann <leon.grundmann at icann.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> Following the publication of the Call for Volunteers
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en>,
>>>>
>>>> the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>> organization (org) is pleased to invite you to nominate a
>>>> representative
>>>> and an alternate to the Proxy & Privacy Services (PPSAI) policy
>>>> Implementation Review Team (IRT).
>>>>
>>>> The implementation process is an ICANN org-driven exercise.  ICANN org
>>>> plans to employ the “Open + Representative Model” piloted on the
>>>> Subsequent Procedures IRT and based on the GNSO’s PDP 3.0 model
>>>> <
>>>> https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-2-working-group-models-10feb20-en.pdf.pdf>.
>>>>
>>>> The goal is to provide a structure that allows for efficient resolution
>>>> of issues that may occur.
>>>>
>>>> We kindly ask that your group nominate up to one representative and up
>>>> to one alternate to participate in the IRT. Please note, we are asking
>>>> each of ICANN’s supporting organizations, advisory committees,
>>>> stakeholder groups and constituencies to nominate up to one
>>>> representative and one alternate.
>>>>
>>>> Putting forward a representative and alternate is optional; all members
>>>> of the GNSO Group are welcome to join the IRT as participants. In fact,
>>>> we urge anyone who is interested in being selected as a representative
>>>> to join the IRT as a participant first (call for volunteers
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en>).
>>>>
>>>> As you will see below, the roles of participants and representatives
>>>> are
>>>> nearly identical, with the representatives’ main function being that of
>>>> an information-bridge to their community groups.
>>>>
>>>> ICANN org plans to host the first IRT call during the ICANN80 public
>>>> meeting in June 2024. We do not require the nominees for the first
>>>> meeting, but request that you conclude the nomination process and
>>>> inform
>>>> us of the nominees as soon as feasible.
>>>>
>>>> Why Have Representatives?
>>>>
>>>> While participants always speak in their own personal capacity,
>>>> representatives are expected to speak on behalf of their constituency,
>>>> stakeholder group, supporting organization, or advisory committee.
>>>> Therefore, a key part of the representative’s role will be to engage
>>>> actively and consistently with their colleagues to ensure they can
>>>> convey their group’s viewpoints to the IRT. Please note, that this will
>>>> require an efficient process for representatives to inform and receive
>>>> input from their respective groups. To put this into place will be the
>>>> responsibility of each representative.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, when determining the level of consensus in the
>>>> circumstance
>>>> described in Section V.E. of the IRT Principles & Guidelines
>>>> <
>>>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf>,
>>>>
>>>> the GNSO Liaison, in the Open + Representative model, shall take into
>>>> consideration that members who are representatives are expected to
>>>> express the viewpoint of their respective community groups and
>>>> participants to express their own views. This does not impact each
>>>> member’s ability to raise any concern they may have, nor does it
>>>> absolve
>>>> ICANN org or the GNSO Council liaison from “exercis[ing] all reasonable
>>>> efforts to resolve disagreements” within the IRT.
>>>>
>>>> More information can be found on this PPSAI IRT wiki page
>>>> <https://community.icann.org/x/lQDSEw>.  We are looking forward to
>>>> getting the IRT underway and, please, do not hesitate to reach out
>>>> should you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Dennis S. Chang
>>>>
>>>> GDD Programs Director
>>>>
>>>> Phone: +1 213 293 7889
>>>>
>>>> Sykpe: dennisSchang
>>>>
>>>> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>  One World – One Internet
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>>> --
>>> Kathy Kleiman
>>> Past President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>>
>>>
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