[Call for Volunteers] Appointment of representative and alternate to the PPSAI IRT

Mon Jun 3 11:10:32 EEST 2024

Hey everyone, I understood that we should appoint one rep for each Constituency. In NPOC, Caleb's is interested into support this IRT. We will be aware what our SG decides. 
Best regards,Juan 

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  On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 22:04, Tomslin Samme-Nlar<mesumbeslin at GMAIL.COM> wrote:   Hi members,
I haven't heard back on this. So, I am following up to know whether the PC should proceed with appointing a representative to the IRT or decline to.
Warmly, 
Tomslin
On Tue, 28 May 2024, 09:53 Tomslin Samme-Nlar, <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for the comments @farzi, @Kathy, @Ponce and @Pedro.
@Pedro, you ask an important question, "are we ... appointing volunteers while we wait for the GNSO council to act or is it better to refuse to nominate someone for now?". I wait to hear what our members think. 

On the GNSO action side of things, Find mya brief of what has transpired in the council since 2019 on this topic below but I'd also like input from @Stephanie Perrin who is one of the council liaisons to the PPSAI IRT:
- As a result of potential conflicts and/or overlap of work between the PPSAI IRT and GDPR-related work in EPDP on Temp Spec, in March 2019,  ICANN org asked the GNSO Council, “whether ICANN org should continue to delay public comment and implementation of PPSAI or take additional steps pending completion of the EPDP in consultation with the PPSAI Implementation Review Team (IRT). 
- Council responded to Org saying, “given the divergent views among Councilors and considering the respective roles of ICANN Org in leading implementation work of consensus policy recommendations and the PPSAI IRT in overseeing the implementation work, the GNSO Council considers it appropriate to defer the decision on this issue to ICANN org and the PPSAI IRT, taking into account the various views of the SOs and ACs.” [emphasis added]- On 2 March 2021, ICANN org delivered theWave 1.5 Report to the GNSO Council, which included a detailed analysis of the extent to which the EPDP Phase 1 recommendations may require modification to the PPSAI and Translation & Transliteration policies, which are in the policy implementation phase. Following review of the Wave 1.5 Report, the Council observed the following in its1 July 2021 letter [gnso.icann.org]:

   - The decision to pause the implementation of the PPSAI and Translation & Transliteration policy recommendations was a decision that was made by ICANN org, not the GNSO Council. As such, the Council is of the view that a decision to restart the implementation activities is not within the remit of the GNSO Council but for ICANN org to make.
   - Should any policy issues arise during the implementation of these policy recommendations, there are processes and procedures that allow the Council to further consider these, but the Council is of the view that the respective Implementation Review Teams (IRTs) will be best placed to identify such possible issues.
   - The Council would also like to point to the letter that was sent to the Council in September 2019 in which it was noted that “following the completion of relevant EPDP work, ICANN org will reassess the existing draft PP materials in consultation with the PPSAI IRT and determine how to proceed with implementation of the Privacy and Proxy Services Accreditation Program”. From a Council’s perspective this still seems a relevant and timely next step.
So, as you can see, the council holds the view that if there are issues arising in the policy as drafted during implementation, they are confident that the issues can be addressed with existing processes and procedures.

Warmly,
Tomslin

On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 07:06, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi everyone,
Regarding the strategy on how to approach this problem, are we nonetheless appointing volunteers while we wait for the GNSO council to act or is it better to refuse to nominate someone for now?

Cordially,
Pedro de Perdigão Lana
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Em seg., 27 de mai. de 2024 às 11:35, Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at jokkolabs.co> escreveu:

+1 kathy +1 Farzi, I can't agree more 
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On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 1:46 PM Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:

 +1 to Farzi, and an Implementation Review Team (run by ICANN Staff) is hardly the place to state that the law has gone in a completely different direction since the original Policy was negotiated.  No one on  the ICANN Board or Staff feels empowered to "stop this train" although it is eight years old and badly out of date.

That power rests in the GNSO Council. Can we (NCSG), through our Councilors, call for a legal review of the proposed PPSAI for problems (if any) with its underlying legal foundation in light of the adoption of GDPR and over half the countries of the world now following the European "comprehensive right of privacy"?  

Best and asking all of our current Councilors (past and future ones too), 

Kathy

 On 5/27/2024 9:26 AM, farzaneh badii wrote:

 Hi Tomslin, 
  This is a bit odd. Didn’t we discuss that most of those policy recommendations were outdated and could not be implemented? Are they hoping that by doing the IRT we can undertake feasibility for the recommendations?  
  This is why I did suggest considering time limits for implementing policies. You can’t come up with a policy and then want to enforce it 8 years later! Especially in the technology space, that is not possible.  
  Best regards  

    Farzaneh      

  On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 5:53 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> wrote:

   Dear members,  
  There is a request from Org for SG/Cs to appoint a representative and an alternate to the PPSAI IRT. We (NCSG) had concerns with the IRT going ahead but as you can see, Org is still going ahead with it.  
  NCSG is seeking a representative and an alternate. Please read below for details of the role of the representative and on what the IRT will be doing. 
  Send your EOI to me (mesumbeslin at gmail.com) copying Julf (julf at julf.com) and Andrea (andrea.glandon at icann.org) no later than Friday May 31st 2023 for the policy committee's review. 
  Warmly, 
 Tomslin  

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 Subject:        [GNSO-SG-C-Leadership] Appointment of representative and 
 alternate to the PPSAI IRT
 Date:   Tue, 21 May 2024 19:59:02 +0000
 From:   Dennis Chang via GNSO-SG-C-Leadership 
 <gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org>
 Reply-To:       Dennis Chang <dennis.chang at icann.org>
 To:     gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org <gnso-sg-c-leadership at icann.org>
 CC:     Leon Grundmann <leon.grundmann at icann.org>

 Dear All,

 Following the publication of the Call for Volunteers 
 <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en>, 
 the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) 
 organization (org) is pleased to invite you to nominate a representative 
 and an alternate to the Proxy & Privacy Services (PPSAI) policy 
 Implementation Review Team (IRT).

 The implementation process is an ICANN org-driven exercise.  ICANN org 
 plans to employ the “Open + Representative Model” piloted on the 
 Subsequent Procedures IRT and based on the GNSO’s PDP 3.0 model 
 <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-2-working-group-models-10feb20-en.pdf.pdf>. 
 The goal is to provide a structure that allows for efficient resolution 
 of issues that may occur.

 We kindly ask that your group nominate up to one representative and up 
 to one alternate to participate in the IRT. Please note, we are asking 
 each of ICANN’s supporting organizations, advisory committees, 
 stakeholder groups and constituencies to nominate up to one 
 representative and one alternate.

 Putting forward a representative and alternate is optional; all members 
 of the GNSO Group are welcome to join the IRT as participants. In fact, 
 we urge anyone who is interested in being selected as a representative 
 to join the IRT as a participant first (call for volunteers 
 <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en>). 
 As you will see below, the roles of participants and representatives are 
 nearly identical, with the representatives’ main function being that of 
 an information-bridge to their community groups.

 ICANN org plans to host the first IRT call during the ICANN80 public 
 meeting in June 2024. We do not require the nominees for the first 
 meeting, but request that you conclude the nomination process and inform 
 us of the nominees as soon as feasible.

 Why Have Representatives?

 While participants always speak in their own personal capacity, 
 representatives are expected to speak on behalf of their constituency, 
 stakeholder group, supporting organization, or advisory committee. 
 Therefore, a key part of the representative’s role will be to engage 
 actively and consistently with their colleagues to ensure they can 
 convey their group’s viewpoints to the IRT. Please note, that this will 
 require an efficient process for representatives to inform and receive 
 input from their respective groups. To put this into place will be the 
 responsibility of each representative.

 In addition, when determining the level of consensus in the circumstance 
 described in Section V.E. of the IRT Principles & Guidelines 
 <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf>, 
 the GNSO Liaison, in the Open + Representative model, shall take into 
 consideration that members who are representatives are expected to 
 express the viewpoint of their respective community groups and 
 participants to express their own views. This does not impact each 
 member’s ability to raise any concern they may have, nor does it absolve 
 ICANN org or the GNSO Council liaison from “exercis[ing] all reasonable 
 efforts to resolve disagreements” within the IRT.

 More information can be found on this PPSAI IRT wiki page 
 <https://community.icann.org/x/lQDSEw>.  We are looking forward to 
 getting the IRT underway and, please, do not hesitate to reach out 
 should you have any questions.

 -- 

 Kind Regards,

 Dennis S. Chang

 GDD Programs Director

 Phone: +1 213 293 7889

 Sykpe: dennisSchang

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