Statement of Interest discussions - We can do more

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*Re: to know who we are negotiating with and on whose interests (big,
small, commercial, noncommercial, name) someone seeks to advance.***

*Kathy, I have to agree that full open disclosure should be mandatory. What
policy vehicle we use to accomplish this is the question. There are always
those who will play the system.*
*RD*
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On Tue, May 30, 2023, 10:45 Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:

> Hi Wisdom and Juan,
>
> I'm returning to our discussion last week about the Statements of internet
> (SOI). Of course, as Chair, Manju must be neutral. But Juan and Wisdom, you
> do not have to be. You are advocates for the needs and concerns of NCSG,
> and there are many on this issue!
>
> As you know from our written comments and discussion online, NCSG ***
> **wants open and public disclosure of who you work for when you are
> negotiating ICANN policy; it is the right of other people in the room (us
> for example) to know who we are negotiating with and on whose interests
> (big, small, commercial, noncommercial, name) someone seeks to advance.** *
>
> There is nothing new about this type of policy disclosure in any policy
> proceeding I know.  It is very, very, very unusual to come before a
> regulatory agency and NOT share who you are submitting your comment for -
> what company or entity.  Law firms almost never submit comments in policy
> proceeding for themselves - they are paid to submit them for others and the
> disclosure those clients.
>
> I have to tell you that I am not happy with the current compromise.  It
> changes things a little, but not enough (IMHO).  I have been negotiating
> ICANN policy for too many years in Policy Development Process working
> groups and other task forces where I get the funny feeling that many people
> in the room (lawyers and consultants) work for the same company, but have
> not disclosed.  I would like them to disclose - in full.  It's fair, it's
> right and its standard practice in other forums.
>
> It's not a violation of ethics rules for lawyers, and we (NCSG) have given
> examples in our written comments.
>
>
> *Wisdom, Juan, how can you/we fight more for our NCSG position?   How to
> we push this process to reveal more?  It would help us a lot in the future!
> *
>
> Best and tx, Kathy
> --------------------
> On 5/23/2023 4:50 AM, Wisdom Donkor wrote:
>
> Hello Julf, I do agree with Manju. Whatever conclusions are agreed upon
> with the proposal, we will share the outcome with the rest of the
> CCOICI members.
> Regards,
>
> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+,  CISM, CEH Certified,)
> President & CEO
> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa
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>
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> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:00 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/2023 08:17, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>>
>> > Last but not least, as the chair of CCOICI, I'll have to be neutral in
>> > the discussion. However, we do have both NCUC and NPOC rep on the
>> > CCOICI. If the NCSG finds the middle ground proposal acceptable, I hope
>> > our 2 reps will share this stance with the committee during our next
>> > CCOICI meeting.
>>
>> Juan Manuel and Wisdom, what's your view?
>>
>>         Julf
>>
>> --
> Kathy Kleiman
> President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>
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