Statement of Interest discussions - We can do more

Tue May 30 18:46:20 EEST 2023

Greetings from Sénégal, West Africa.

Yes, please go for 'open and disclosure on who you really is' among
Non-Commercial Stakeholders Groups.
I presume that we, all, know that the members of a non-commercial or a
Not-for-Profit organisation are coming from public and Private sectors. We
need to live from frequent revenues but can also be enough humanist to
fight for the rights of the vulnerable people.
Just a 2 cents (XOF) from me.
Warm regards
Olévié

Le mar. 30 mai 2023, 20:36, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Thanks for the mail, Kathy. I have taken note of the concerns, and we will
> take the issue up.
>
>
>
> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+,  CISM, CEH Certified,)
> President & CEO
> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa
> Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC)
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> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
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>
> _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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> Member  | Council Committee for Overseeing and Implementing Continuous
> Improvement (CCOICI) | UN IGF MAG Member | IGF Support Fund Association
> Executive Committee Member, World Bank Independent Consultant | AU AFIGF
> Member |  Ghana OGP Advisory Committee member | GSS SDGs Advisory Committee
> Member
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________
> Specialization:
> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
> Security, Geospatial Technologies, Open Source Technologies, Domain Name
> Systems, Human Resource Planning and Development, Software Engineering,
> Event Planning & Management,
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 2:44 PM Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>
>> Hi Wisdom and Juan,
>>
>> I'm returning to our discussion last week about the Statements of
>> internet (SOI). Of course, as Chair, Manju must be neutral. But Juan and
>> Wisdom, you do not have to be. You are advocates for the needs and concerns
>> of NCSG, and there are many on this issue!
>>
>> As you know from our written comments and discussion online, NCSG ***
>> **wants open and public disclosure of who you work for when you are
>> negotiating ICANN policy; it is the right of other people in the room (us
>> for example) to know who we are negotiating with and on whose interests
>> (big, small, commercial, noncommercial, name) someone seeks to advance.** *
>>
>> There is nothing new about this type of policy disclosure in any policy
>> proceeding I know.  It is very, very, very unusual to come before a
>> regulatory agency and NOT share who you are submitting your comment for -
>> what company or entity.  Law firms almost never submit comments in policy
>> proceeding for themselves - they are paid to submit them for others and the
>> disclosure those clients.
>>
>> I have to tell you that I am not happy with the current compromise.  It
>> changes things a little, but not enough (IMHO).  I have been negotiating
>> ICANN policy for too many years in Policy Development Process working
>> groups and other task forces where I get the funny feeling that many people
>> in the room (lawyers and consultants) work for the same company, but have
>> not disclosed.  I would like them to disclose - in full.  It's fair, it's
>> right and its standard practice in other forums.
>>
>> It's not a violation of ethics rules for lawyers, and we (NCSG) have
>> given examples in our written comments.
>>
>>
>> *Wisdom, Juan, how can you/we fight more for our NCSG position?   How to
>> we push this process to reveal more?  It would help us a lot in the future!
>> *
>>
>> Best and tx, Kathy
>> --------------------
>> On 5/23/2023 4:50 AM, Wisdom Donkor wrote:
>>
>> Hello Julf, I do agree with Manju. Whatever conclusions are agreed upon
>> with the proposal, we will share the outcome with the rest of the
>> CCOICI members.
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+,  CISM, CEH Certified,)
>> President & CEO
>> Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation (AODIRF) | Africa
>> Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC)
>> P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra | www.aodirf.org  / www.
>> <http://www.afrigeocon.org>agdic.info
>> Tel: +233 20 812 8851
>> Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom |  Twitter: @wisdom_dk
>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>> ICANN GNSO Council Member | ICANN transfer policy review working group
>> Member  | Council Committee for Overseeing and Implementing Continuous
>> Improvement (CCOICI) | UN IGF MAG Member | IGF Support Fund Association
>> Executive Committee Member, World Bank Independent Consultant | AU AFIGF
>> Member |  Ghana OGP Advisory Committee member | GSS SDGs Advisory Committee
>> Member
>>
>> ____________________________________________________________________________________________
>> Specialization:
>> E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet
>> Governance,  Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber
>> Security, Geospatial Technologies, Open Source Technologies, Domain Name
>> Systems, Human Resource Planning and Development, Software Engineering,
>> Event Planning & Management,
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:00 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/05/2023 08:17, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>>>
>>> > Last but not least, as the chair of CCOICI, I'll have to be neutral in
>>> > the discussion. However, we do have both NCUC and NPOC rep on the
>>> > CCOICI. If the NCSG finds the middle ground proposal acceptable, I
>>> hope
>>> > our 2 reps will share this stance with the committee during our next
>>> > CCOICI meeting.
>>>
>>> Juan Manuel and Wisdom, what's your view?
>>>
>>>         Julf
>>>
>>> --
>> Kathy Kleiman
>> President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>
>>
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