Statement of Interest discussions - We can do more

[Kathy Kleiman]

Hi Wisdom and Juan,

I'm returning to our discussion last week about the Statements of 
internet (SOI). Of course, as Chair, Manju must be neutral. But Juan and 
Wisdom, you do not have to be. You are advocates for the needs and 
concerns of NCSG, and there are many on this issue!

As you know from our written comments and discussion online, NCSG 
*****wants open and public disclosure of who you work for when you are 
negotiating ICANN policy; it is the right of other people in the room 
(us for example) to know who we are negotiating with and on whose 
interests (big, small, commercial, noncommercial, name) someone seeks to 
advance.**
*

There is nothing new about this type of policy disclosure in any policy 
proceeding I know.  It is very, very, very unusual to come before a 
regulatory agency and NOT share who you are submitting your comment for 
- what company or entity.  Law firms almost never submit comments in 
policy proceeding for themselves - they are paid to submit them for 
others and the disclosure those clients.

I have to tell you that I am not happy with the current compromise.  It 
changes things a little, but not enough (IMHO).  I have been negotiating 
ICANN policy for too many years in Policy Development Process working 
groups and other task forces where I get the funny feeling that many 
people in the room (lawyers and consultants) work for the same company, 
but have not disclosed.  I would like them to disclose - in full.  It's 
fair, it's right and its standard practice in other forums.

It's not a violation of ethics rules for lawyers, and we (NCSG) have 
given examples in our written comments./*
*/

/*Wisdom, Juan, how can you/we fight more for our NCSG position?   How 
to we push this process to reveal more?  It would help us a lot in the 
future!*
/

Best and tx, Kathy

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On 5/23/2023 4:50 AM, Wisdom Donkor wrote:
> Hello Julf, I do agree with Manju. Whatever conclusions are agreed 
> upon with the proposal, we will share the outcome with the rest of the 
> CCOICI members.
> Regards,
>
> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+, CISM, CEH Certified,)
> President & CEO
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> Geospatial Data and Internet Conference (AGDIC)
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>
> On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 8:00 AM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>
>     On 23/05/2023 08:17, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>
>     > Last but not least, as the chair of CCOICI, I'll have to be
>     neutral in
>     > the discussion. However, we do have both NCUC and NPOC rep on the
>     > CCOICI. If the NCSG finds the middle ground proposal acceptable,
>     I hope
>     > our 2 reps will share this stance with the committee during our
>     next
>     > CCOICI meeting.
>
>     Juan Manuel and Wisdom, what's your view?
>
>             Julf
>
-- 
Kathy Kleiman
President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
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