NCSG Meeting Agenda and chat with CEO

[farzaneh badii]

Lets just not make this about visa issues Tapani. This is about
substitution which can be dealt with. I have been banging in every door at
ICANN since 2014 about visa issues and not many care. This is about
substitution, lets make it about substitution.


On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 7:51 AM Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 07:10:22AM -0700, farzaneh badii (
> farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>
> > The meeting with the CEO was on June 1st I believe.
>
> As you might have noticed, my message was sent on May 19. Determining
> why it took so long to get to the list would be an interesting task of
> computer forensics, but perhaps not relevant here. Anyway, the problem
> persists, and it's not new as you say:
>
> > But I have opinions about visas (as you know). people who have visa
> issues
> > have been raising the problems and even provided some solutions since
> > forever. We put all of them here:
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bKGEtdLkwAyPTcPtR9WqzH2wmW-pZmhhZfUWgejeKEU/edit
>
> > Nothing has changed.
>
> I would argue that things have changed to the worse. In particular the
> 45-day rule and increased strictness in making exceptions has worsened
> the problem. A small change, perhaps.
>
> > If this is about travel substitution, why make it about visa.
> Substitution
> > can’t take place sometimes when people face a personal problem etc. just
> > ask for substitution to be easier.
>
> It might be interesting to ask why they were made harder in the first
> place.
>
> But nonetheless it gives a good opportunity to highlight why such rules
> often have discriminatory side-effects. Everybody can have personal
> problems, but visa problems vary a lot depending on where you're from.
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
-- 
Farzaneh
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