[Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG Comment on Draft PTI FY21-24 Strategic Plan

Sun May 24 14:11:12 EEST 2020

I think Milton is right on this.
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On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:21 PM james at icann.guru <lists at icann.guru> wrote:

> PTI has more data exposure in its other roles than it does in its naming
> role, I would not discount those when looking at the strategic plan.
>
> *---*
> *James Gannon*
>
> On 5/24/2020 5:12:37 PM, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
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> We have to be careful here.
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>
> It sounds like the PTI statement is saying that by shielding Whois data
> from indiscriminate public access, privacy laws and regulations are
> “undermining trust” in registries and registrars. This is nonsense.
> Compliance with privacy protections and setting up accountable mechanisms
> for disclosing protected data actually dramatically increases trust in the
> system.
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> Whoever is running PTI should NOT be trying to oppose or undermine
> specific policy positions developed in the ICANN EPDP. Our comments should
> call this out.
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> If on the other hand they are warning us against jurisdictional
> fragmentation, it might be a more legitimate concern. In other words,
> jurisdictional fragmentation could undermine the ICANN/PTI regime for
> global DNS governance by making different government have different rules
> and regulations. We would be very supportive of that but the way it is
> phrased I think we are talking about the first meaning (bring back the old
> Whois) and not the second meaning (maintain global governance of DNS).
> After all, the problem with jurisdictional fragmentation is not that it
> undermines trust but that it de-globalizes DNS governance.
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>
>
> If they are really concerned about jurisdictional fragmentation they
> should be criticizing efforts by the trademark and IPR interests to engage
> in geographic differentiation of our rules governing registration data, and
> criticizing the US Congress for entertaining legislation proposals that
> would regulate ICANN in US jurisdiction to enable the old, open Whois.
>
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>
> *From:* NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Raphael
> Beauregard-Lacroix
> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2020 8:15 PM
> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [Public Comments] Call for Volunteers for NCSG Comment on
> Draft PTI FY21-24 Strategic Plan
>
>
>
> Hi Tomslin,
>
>
>
> Thanks for jumping in!
>
>
>
> If I understand you correctly, your point is that the risk evoked here is
> that of conflicting data protection rules? I agree that this is a risk
> somewhere out there, but I don't quite make the link between a hypothetical
> "hard" conflict of laws and the trust of the community in PTI; would you
> have some language to suggest, either to add or modify what is in the
> comment already?
>
>
>
> Have a nice day,
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 7:52 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the draft comment Raphael. Much appreciated!
>
>
>
> In the comment regarding "evolving  data  privacy  regulation  landscape
> may  have  impacts  on  the  level  of transparency  for  the  IANA
> registries,  which  may  erode  trust  and  accountability" being a risk
> to  *Maintain  stakeholders’  trust  that  IANA  is  the  proper  home
> for  enabling global  interoperability  through  unique  identifier
> coordination,*
>
> you wrote ".....to imply, for example, that data protection policies
> (including those seemingly developed by the community in the context of the
> Expedited Policy Development Process) may adversely affect “transparency,”
> “trust,” or “accountability,” represents a value judgement. This is
> problematic because PTI is not the final arbiter when it comes to the
> implementation of those values into the policies; the community is."
>
>
> In my opinion, I think it is fair for PTI to put that as risk,
> understanding that risk is a function of probability and impact. What they
> are saying there in my view is the fact that there is potential for
> different jurisdictional regulations to affect their ability to maintain
> stakeholders' trust.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> Tomslin
>
>
>
>
> On Mon., 11 May 2020, 23:58 Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix, <
> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all
>
>
>
> I have drafted a comment. Comments, suggestions, edits are welcome. The
> strategic plan itself is quite short so feel free to have a look too!
>
>
>
> Let's give it a week here so that the PC also have ample time for review.
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>
>
> Have a nice day,
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:34 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> PTI just published a public consultation on Draft PTI FY21-24 Strategic
> Plan and asking for input. We commented previously on PTI budget and
> operating plan and so it is important for us to review this strategic plan.
> You can find here all the details here :
> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-pti-fy21-24-strategic-plan-2020-04-20-en
>
>
>
> I created this google doc to be used during the drafting and accessible to
> all in order to kick off the discussion and comments:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjqC4fh-X9ISzJQWcxxwE75fHrNmnRuF93lCaweBjck/edit
>
>
>
>
> Please let me offline if you want to volunteer to participate in drafting
> the NCSG comment, join the drafting team and collaborating with finance
> committee .
>
>
>
> You can find previous public comments submitted by NCSG in this wiki page
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Public+Comments+-+2020 and
> listing those who drafted them or volunteered.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Rafik Dammak
>
>
>
> NCSG Policy Committee Chair
>
>
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