Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report

Oreoluwa Somolu Lesi oreoluwa at WTEC.ORG.NG
Mon Feb 10 10:52:34 EET 2020


Apologies for sending this in late. I just noticed that the Easter 
weekend of 2027 starts the day after the end of the Community Forum, 
which might be a problem for people who celebrate Easter.

I have noted this in the Google Docs.

Kind regards,
Ore
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On 10/02/2020 2:11 pm, Joan katambi wrote:
> Thanks Caleb.
>
> Regards
> Joan
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:10 AM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com 
> <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     thanks Caleb for the input, we will try to include those comments
>     to the draft.
>
>     Best.
>
>     Rafik
>
>     Le ven. 7 févr. 2020 à 13:58, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele
>     <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com <mailto:muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>         Hello Joan, Muriel and Rafik,
>
>         Tried to access the document but having troubles with the
>         Google doc app on my phone so will post directly here on
>         behalf of some NPOC members who have raised some valid concerns.
>
>         However, see this as a contribution from NPOC members to this
>         comment. Please find below some observations from our members.
>
>         Some of the the dates do not put into consideration some
>         religious concerns. Such concerns such as Ramadan,
>         sukkot/Shmini Atzeret /Dawil for other years.
>         Further observations are stated below :
>
>         The main observations are that in moving the AGM Meeting from
>         Late October/Early November in an effort to put several weeks
>         distance between the IETF and the ICANN Meetings, they have
>         created conflicts with Jewish Religious Holidays where there
>         had been none and also conflicts with DIWALI and other
>         holidays.  This time, late October/early November is usually a
>         good time free of conflicts and moving it up the middle of
>         October runs into many conflicts. While it would be desirable
>         not to have the ICANN meetings so close to the IETF ones,
>         moving ICANN meeting dates up appear to disregard important
>         holidays and religious days. In any event, IETF meeting
>         attendees tend to travel immediately from the ICANN meeting to
>         the IETF Meeting as they have done in the past.
>
>         2) the March Meetings in 2024 and 2026 these are in conflict
>         with the celebration of Ramadan. ICANN Org needs to understand
>         and note this conflict
>
>         3) There is a special call for attention to the Public
>         Comments and statements ICANN has made in the Multistakeholder
>         Model Plan where they acknowledge the difficulty in getting
>         new people to join and engage within ICANN and to increase the
>         diversity of participants.  The Multistakeholder Model Work
>         Plan takes note of a concern about whether ICANN has developed
>         pathways to enable effective participation. One of the more
>         practical ways for ICANN to facilitate participation is for
>         ICANN Org, to be more aware of and to avoid clashing with
>         important holidays and religious days observed by volunteers
>         who work countless hours to improve ICANN’s multistakeholder
>         advisory work. By avoiding these dates as much as possible it
>         is showing all volunteers that ICANN ORG understands their
>         concerns and does its best to avoid conflicts.
>
>
>
>         Some of their *recommendations* include the following :
>
>         For September 2022, we suggest that these meeting dates be
>         moved a full two or three weeks later, at the end of October
>         when the AGM has traditionally occurred in order to avoid
>         clashing with a Jewish Holiday.
>         For October 2024, it is unclear why we are having the AGM
>         during these dates when they conflict both with a Jewish
>         Holiday and with the EURO IX forum. Moving these by one week
>         would be considered ideal. Having the meeting start on a
>         Sunday instead of Saturday would be best as the Jewish
>         Holidays end the evening of Friday, October 25.
>         For March 2025, ICANN Org needs to consider that this meeting
>         conflicts with Ramadan, which lasts the entire month of March
>         if these dates are to be retained as is. Passover is Friday,
>         April 11 and Good Friday is April 18
>         For March 2026, ICANN Org needs to consider that this meeting
>         conflicts with Ramadan which is from February 18-March 19 and
>         moving it is tricky because of the upcoming Passover and
>         Easter celebrations, which are Passover (March 31)/Easter
>         periods (Good Friday is April 1). As an added wrinkle, IETF is
>         from March 14-20.
>         For October 2027, this meeting falls during the Jewish Holiday
>         of Sukkot/Shemini Atzeret (Eighth Day of Solemn
>         Assembly/Simchat Torah) which could be avoided by moving it
>         two weeks earlier making it back-to-back with the IETF meeting.
>
>
>
>         Caleb Ogundele
>
>         ________________
>
>         Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device.
>
>         Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.
>
>         On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 5:01 PM Rafik Dammak
>         <rafik.dammak at gmail.com <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Thanks Joan for the draft.
>             @all please review the comment. it is quite short and it
>             is about sharing any concerns about the ICANN meeting
>             suggested dates.
>
>             Best,
>
>             Rafik
>
>             Le ven. 7 févr. 2020 à 00:43, Joan katambi
>             <joanhopek at gmail.com <mailto:joanhopek at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>
>                 Dear NCSG,
>
>                 Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the
>                 Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and
>                 Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and we would like
>                 to submit it for your review.
>
>                 comments and suggestions are well come till 8th
>                 February 2020.
>
>                 We created this google doc to be used during the
>                 drafting:
>                 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>
>                 Regards
>                 Katambi Joan
>

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