Proposed NCSG Statement of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report

[Rafik Dammak]

thanks Caleb for the input, we will try to include those comments to the
draft.

Best.

Rafik

Le ven. 7 févr. 2020 à 13:58, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <
muyiwacaleb at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hello Joan, Muriel and Rafik,
>
> Tried to access the document but having troubles with the Google doc app
> on my phone so will post directly here on behalf of some NPOC members who
> have raised some valid concerns.
>
> However, see this as a contribution from NPOC members to this comment.
> Please find below some observations from our members.
>
> Some of the the dates do not put into consideration some religious
> concerns. Such concerns such as Ramadan, sukkot/Shmini Atzeret /Dawil for
> other years.
> Further observations are stated below :
>
> The main observations are that in moving the AGM Meeting from Late
> October/Early November in an effort to put several weeks distance between
> the IETF and the ICANN Meetings, they have created conflicts with Jewish
> Religious Holidays where there had been none and also conflicts with DIWALI
> and other holidays.  This time, late October/early November is usually a
> good time free of conflicts and moving it up the middle of October runs
> into many conflicts. While it would be desirable not to have the ICANN
> meetings so close to the IETF ones, moving ICANN meeting dates up appear to
> disregard important holidays and religious days. In any event, IETF meeting
> attendees tend to travel immediately from the ICANN meeting to the IETF
> Meeting as they have done in the past.
>
> 2) the March Meetings in 2024 and 2026 these are in conflict with the
> celebration of Ramadan. ICANN Org needs to understand and note this conflict
>
> 3) There is a special call for attention to the Public Comments and
> statements ICANN has made in the Multistakeholder Model Plan where they
> acknowledge the difficulty in getting new people to join and engage within
> ICANN and to increase the diversity of participants.  The Multistakeholder
> Model Work Plan takes note of a concern about whether ICANN has developed
> pathways to enable effective participation. One of the more practical ways
> for ICANN to facilitate participation is for ICANN Org, to be more aware of
> and to avoid clashing with important holidays and religious days observed
> by volunteers who work countless hours to improve ICANN’s multistakeholder
> advisory work. By avoiding these dates as much as possible it is showing
> all volunteers that ICANN ORG understands their concerns and does its best
> to avoid conflicts.
>
>
> Some of their *recommendations* include the following :
>
> For September 2022, we suggest that these meeting dates be moved a full
> two or three weeks later, at the end of October when the AGM has
> traditionally occurred in order to avoid clashing with a Jewish Holiday.
>
> For October 2024, it is unclear why we are having the AGM during these
> dates when they conflict both with a Jewish Holiday and with the EURO IX
> forum. Moving these by one week would be considered ideal. Having the
> meeting start on a Sunday instead of Saturday would be best as the Jewish
> Holidays end the evening of Friday, October 25.
>
> For March 2025, ICANN Org needs to consider that this meeting conflicts
> with Ramadan, which lasts the entire month of March if these dates are to
> be retained as is. Passover is Friday, April 11 and Good Friday is April 18
>
> For March 2026, ICANN Org needs to consider that this meeting conflicts
> with Ramadan which is from February 18-March 19 and moving it is tricky
> because of the upcoming Passover and Easter celebrations, which are
> Passover (March 31)/Easter periods (Good Friday is April 1). As an added
> wrinkle, IETF is from March 14-20.
>
> For October 2027, this meeting falls during the Jewish Holiday of
> Sukkot/Shemini Atzeret (Eighth Day of Solemn Assembly/Simchat Torah) which
> could be avoided by moving it two weeks earlier making it back-to-back with
> the IETF meeting.
>
>
>
> Caleb Ogundele
>
> ________________
>
> Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device.
>
> Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 5:01 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joan for the draft.
>> @all please review the comment. it is quite short and it is about sharing
>> any concerns about the ICANN meeting suggested dates.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Rafik
>>
>> Le ven. 7 févr. 2020 à 00:43, Joan katambi <joanhopek at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Dear NCSG,
>>>
>>> Murie and I worked on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for
>>> ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report  and
>>> we would like to submit it for your review.
>>>
>>> comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.
>>>
>>> We created this google doc to be used during the drafting:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Katambi Joan
>>>
>>
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