IGF Climate Change

Wed Sep 25 13:37:21 EEST 2019

For all ICANN-funded flights, we're looking at 11M pounds of CO2. That's
close to 5M kg, or 500 000 (metric) tons of CO2. According to the US EPA, a
"typical" car is close to 5 (metric) tons/y. So ICANN-funded flights making
as much CO2 as 100 000 average US cars.

I haven't made up my mind whether that's a lot or not, but just some
numbers for comparison

A nice day to all,

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 1:38 PM Peter Micek <petermicek at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> To continue the good thoughts and ideas, I'm happy to say that Access Now
> published another climate post today, on the occasion of the UN Sustainable
> Development Summit.
> https://www.accessnow.org/sustainability-and-digital-rights-how-theyre-connected-and-what-that-means-for-our-work/
>
> We go into more detail on some links we see between digital rights and
> environmental justice. We focused on building a sustainable internet,
> reducing e-waste, and protecting environmental defenders. Thanks to Michael
> Oghia for the research and references.
>
> This post comes on the heels of our new commitment to reduce the
> environmental footprint of RightsCon, beginning with our June 2020 event in
> Costa Rica:
> https://www.rightscon.org/technology-in-the-time-of-climate-crisis/
>
> Let's keep these ideas moving. Is there any mechanism or meeting being
> planned to more formally unite the climate justice and IG and digital
> rights worlds?
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 5:00 AM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Continuing the thread that Nick began a few days ago,  Adam Peake was so
>> kind to share a blog post about ICANN's carbon footprint that Goran just
>> published two days ago (it's great that all of these points are
>> converging). You can read it here:
>> https://www.icann.org/news/blog/icann-s-carbon-footprint-blog
>>
>> While I'm probably not the first person to raise this issue, I did specifically
>> raise it
>> <http://www.circleid.com/posts/20170815_aviation_the_dirty_not_so_little_secret_of_internet_governance/>
>> – multiple times – with Goran and the board. Regardless of the response
>> (i.e., support or lack of support) from the community, I knew it was
>> important to do so. Goran told me, point blank, during the open session
>> with him and the board during ICANN 60 (Abu Dhabi) that he was going to
>> make this a priority, though it will take time. The fact that this is
>> happening, even after some time, shows real sincerity on his part, and I
>> think we should continue to advocate for ICANN Org to be transparent about
>> this facet of our work.
>>
>> I'm encouraged by this, and while it is a relatively small step, it's
>> still one in the right direction. This is probably a low priority for most,
>> but I think support for positive action is important
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:30 PM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bruna,
>>>
>>> This is definitely more of a case study of the dangers of spreading
>>> dis/misinformation (and I say that as someone who was raised in a
>>> climate change-denying household for the record). This would align quite
>>> well with what we at GFMD (my organisation) are working on in our advocacy
>>> work, and the Earth Journalism Network (an Internews project) is very
>>> interested in this topic, too. To me, addressing how misinformation is
>>> exacerbating the climate crisis seems like a much more pressing and
>>> underdiscussed topic than the entirety of sustainability itself.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 7:17 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all, my two cents:
>>>>
>>>> I believe that additionally to that, we could consider addressing the
>>>> misinformation component to Climate change. I guess Trump and now my
>>>> President with the entire fire at the Amazon situation have been part of a
>>>> series of world leaders that have been denying the some climate incidents
>>>> and helping spread inaccurate information about this.
>>>>
>>>> In practical terms, I dont really know how to address this, but maybe a
>>>> call to world leaders and organizations in not spreading misinformation and
>>>> promoting full disclosure of information regarding this subject ?
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>> B
>>>>
>>>> Le lun. 23 sept. 2019 à 14:15, Nick Shorey <lists at nickshorey.com> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Michael.
>>>>>
>>>>> (FYI adding Carlos and Roli)
>>>>>
>>>>> So it sounds like we have identified several problems, and we have
>>>>> some ideas for potential solutions (I like focused problem-based policy
>>>>> challenges!).
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of the IGF - would it benefit to see if we can create an
>>>>> additional specific session to convene and discuss this, outside of the
>>>>> Internet Rights and Principles Coalition (IRPC) one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick Shorey
>>>>> Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988
>>>>> Email: lists at nickshorey.com <lists at nickshorey.com>
>>>>> Skype: nick.shorey
>>>>> Twitter: @nickshorey
>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin
>>>>> Web: www.nickshorey.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 19:09, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed I have Nick! I don't mean to monopolise this thread either,
>>>>> it's just something I've been following for some time.
>>>>>
>>>>> In terms of your question, I think the best policy outcome could be
>>>>> two-fold:
>>>>>
>>>>> Internally: recognise how IG has a massive footprint, and address it
>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Externally: work with the private sector to ensure that sustainability
>>>>> is infused into the core of technological design, and work toward creating
>>>>> more circular economies.
>>>>>
>>>>> It will absolutely take multi-stakeholder collaboration too!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 6:49 PM Nick Shorey <lists at nickshorey.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all - Adding Corinne who replied on the ISOC list and has been
>>>>>> engaged in this area.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael - Thank you for sharing all this information - you certainly
>>>>>> have been busy on this topic!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you could see a policy outcome agreed at the IGF as a response to
>>>>>> a single aspect of the Internet climate impact problem, what would it be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick Shorey
>>>>>> Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988
>>>>>> Email: lists at nickshorey.com <lists at nickshorey.com>
>>>>>> Skype: nick.shorey
>>>>>> Twitter: @nickshorey
>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin
>>>>>> Web: www.nickshorey.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 18:23, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a lot of ground to cover here. Let me address your points
>>>>>> inline
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 6:09 PM Nick Shorey <lists at nickshorey.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *1. What debate is currently taking place on this topic and where?*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MO: As I said, within the IG space, it's limited. I've written a lot
>>>>>> about this (see my CircleId <http://www.circleid.com/members/7683>
>>>>>> profile, for instance), and even wrote about carbon offsetting
>>>>>> <http://www.circleid.com/posts/20170815_aviation_the_dirty_not_so_little_secret_of_internet_governance/>
>>>>>> as it relates to IG and aviation in general and ICANN in particular.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn't meant to be self-promotion, but merely to help illustrate
>>>>>> how there is room for this in the IG ecosystem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far, there is some discussion in the ITU (e-waste, for instance)
>>>>>> and within the IGF with the IRPC but it's largely glossed over or taken
>>>>>> only as an individual stakeholder-related issue (e.g., what data centers,
>>>>>> private tech companies, governments, etc. are doing about it, and not what
>>>>>> we are all collectively doing).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did an entire session on this topic in 2017 at EuroDIG. You can see
>>>>>> all the information about the session, including a list of resources I've
>>>>>> compiled related to ICTs and sustainability at:
>>>>>> https://eurodigwiki.org/wiki/WS_11_2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *2. Where (if any) do the gaps exist in current policy debate or
>>>>>>> initiatives?*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are many. I outline at least some of them in this chapter (Ch.
>>>>>> 4) for the DC3's 2017 report outlining all the elements of sustainable
>>>>>> internet access contrasted with sustainable development: http://bibliotecadigital.fgv.br/dspace/bitstream/handle/10438/19401/Community
>>>>>> networks - the Internet by the people%2c for the
>>>>>> people.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
>>>>>> <http://bibliotecadigital.fgv.br/dspace/bitstream/handle/10438/19401/Community%20networks%20-%20the%20Internet%20by%20the%20people%2c%20for%20the%20people.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *3. What can we do to progress this topic through dialogue and
>>>>>>> actions?*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Know what's already out there. Here are some notable examples and
>>>>>> resources:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The ICT for Sustainability (ICT4S) community: http://ict4s.org
>>>>>> 3. The https://ClimateAction.tech <https://climateaction.tech/>
>>>>>>  community
>>>>>> 4. The IEA's Digitization and Energy report
>>>>>> <https://www.iea.org/digital/%C2%A0> and Greenpeace's Click Clean
>>>>>> <http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/click-clean/> campaign
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also attached slides from a presentation I give that explains
>>>>>> more about it. Happy to be a resource!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Internet & Sustainability (Oghia).pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>>>
>>>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>> @boomartins
>>>>
>>>
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