[NCSG-PC] one on one with Goran

Wed Oct 2 10:51:51 EEST 2019

Hi all,

Not sure if it's too late but there are a few topics Access Now is
interested in:

 1) fake domains and related spoofing issues, which we find difficult to
resolve with ICANN; relatedly, recent unauthorized changes to Uzbek country
code tlds; 2) efforts to build a human rights policy into ICANN; 3) ongoing
failures to bring the WHOIS system into GDPR compliance; 4) carbon
footprint efforts, including as we look to reform rightscon sustainability.

Peter

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 1:24 AM Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks so much Farzi for raising the question about ICANN's carbon
> footprint.
>
> @Stephanie - given what Goran shared with me (about needing community
> support and push for more action), and given that there are so many other
> pressing, issue-related questions you need to raise, may I recommend that
> you raise the issue (about carbon), say that it has attracted substantial
> discussion on the list, and that we support greater efforts to evaluate and
> ultimately reduce emissions? Or something to that effect? At least indicate
> that at least a portion of the NCSG supports these efforts, but also add
> the caveat (that Ayden raised) that in an effort to cut emissions, civil
> society participation should remain a priority.
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019, 11:59 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I apologize. Here we go.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:48 PM Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix <
>> rbeauregardlacroix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Farzaneh
>>>
>>> Thanks for bringing this up. Would you mind attaching the document in
>>> question? I suppose it was posted on the PC list, and although it is public
>>> (iirc) I think having it here would help other people give their comments.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:13 PM Tatiana Tropina <
>>> tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stephanie and all,
>>>> I very much agree with raising the point about blog vs. public comments
>>>> (thanks Farzaneh!). If not during this call, then next time or in Montreal
>>>> somehow. This has been raised repeatedly and not only by us but seems to
>>>> get rather little or no explanation.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tanya
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 21:50, Stephanie Perrin <
>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> These area excellent points Farzi, thanks.  ANswers in line:
>>>>> On 2019-10-01 15:28, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stephanie
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for putting this together. I cc'd the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first question is an actual comment. So he has invited some NCSG
>>>>> members to dinner? Or is this the usual dinner invitation? And who would
>>>>> you like to take with you to this dinner if you could take other members?
>>>>>
>>>>> He has asked me to find 10 random folks.  working on it, assume
>>>>> councillors and constituency heads, but also want new people.  Thoughts
>>>>> welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The second question, you are asking for a research librarian for the
>>>>> community. This should have been in form of additional budget request and I
>>>>> don't think anything can be done about it now. It's simply too late and the
>>>>> CEO doesn't have a pot of money to give to noncommercials to have a
>>>>> research librarian.  This again is not a question, it's an ask. I don't
>>>>> think there would be any problem with if we suggest this as an ABR and
>>>>> promote it and get support from other community groups (though I am dubious
>>>>> about its effectiveness, since if we don't have many people active, why
>>>>> would they want to use a research libraria?)
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a staffing nudge, not an ABR.  They need one, they are a grown
>>>>> up org and they have info needs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The third question is again another ask for a budget, and this time
>>>>> its reallocation.I see that in this request, you mention that CSG was
>>>>> disinterested in meeting with "us". And then there was a concession? Would
>>>>> be glad to know more about this if you could share the details. You are
>>>>> asking for another day to be added to Cancun for NCSG to meet internally. I
>>>>> don't have an issue with that but I am wondering if the CEO will even
>>>>> entertain your request if you don't say the objectives of this one day
>>>>> meeting with NCSG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well our partners there do not think it is worth their time and effort
>>>>> to meet with us in an intercessional. SO they proposed a one day addon.  I
>>>>> think we need, as an SG, to start thinking about what our role is, how are
>>>>> we structured, does it make sense today, etc.  Money is going to be sucked
>>>>> into the deficit if we don't use it, I want it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to ask the CEO, and we have been asking this before, why some
>>>>> important call for comments from the community are published on blogs and
>>>>> not on public comment page? Can that be fixed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you going to discuss his blog about ICANN's carbon foot print?
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you also please raise the point that we are unclear about the
>>>>> nature of evolving ICANN's MSM process? Brian Cute (if I am not mistaken)
>>>>> was appointed by the Board or the CEO, and this whole initiative was
>>>>> created in a top-down manner I believe. How do they want to actually evolve
>>>>> the MSM when the process of evolving it is a top down process?
>>>>>
>>>>> I will raise both points, but if I put it in his briefing note, which
>>>>> is restricted to three points, it will be like waving a red flag in front
>>>>> of a bull.  He thinks he is being transparent.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that answers your questions and thanks for engaging on this,
>>>>> much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:48 AM Stephanie Perrin <
>>>>> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have my one on 14 with Goran tomorrow.  I am late in sending these
>>>>>> questions out for approcal, they were due yesterday.  I have discussed with
>>>>>> Bruna, that is it.  Let me know if you have any reactions, I am sending
>>>>>> very shortly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers Steph
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>>>>> --
>> Farzaneh
>>
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