ISOC sells PIR

[Ayden Férdeline]

I would like to hear more about this possibility. I have read article 7.5 today of the .org registry agreement (link below) and it is not particularly clear to me when or why ICANN might exercise its right to terminate an agreement. Can anyone offer some commentary on this please?

Many thanks, Ayden

https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/tlds/org/org-agmt-pdf-30jun19-en.pdf

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On Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:39, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> And here is the first red flag raised and quoted by @IGPAlert on twitter.
>
> Re: the sellout of .org, under art. 7.5 of the PIR contract, PIR has to provide ICANN with 30 days’ notice of any change in control, and ICANN can respond by terminating the agreement #PIR #ORG #ICANN
>
> Was ICANN notified and was there any notice to critical stakeholders SO /AC?
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019, 2:19 AM James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> wrote:
>
>> The purchasing entity is ethos capital a Delaware corporation formed 4 months ago with many familiar faces involved.
>> https://ethoscapital.com/
>>
>> ---
>> James Gannon
>>
>> On 14.11.19, 02:00, "Carlos Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca> wrote:
>>
>>     Yes, they are the same: Ethos and Ethos Capital are from the same group.
>>     Even the web pages are almost identical, and several officers sit on
>>     both. As if this would make a significant difference, but...:
>>
>>     http://www.ethos.co.za/
>>     https://ethoscapital.mu/
>>
>>     fraternal regards
>>
>>     --c.a.
>>
>>     On 13/11/2019 22:53, James Gannon wrote:
>>     > Ethos the South African firm is not the same firm that has aquired PIR.
>>     >
>>     > ---
>>     > James Gannon
>>     >
>>     > On 14.11.19, 01:48, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Carlos Afonso" <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of 0000103799ed46a9-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >     Also, the official statement from ISOC mentions that Ethos Capital is "a
>>     >     strong strategic partner that understands the intricacies of the domain
>>     >     industry and has the expertise, experience and shared values to further
>>     >     advance the goals of .ORG into the future".
>>     >
>>     >     Just checked their two main websites (Ethos Capital and Ethos) - there
>>     >     is no trace of former experience in dealing with domain names (the
>>     >     acquisition of a South African service provider in 2018
>>     >     notwithstanding). "Shared values" with a financial speculator whose aim
>>     >     is just profit?
>>     >
>>     >     But, let us face it, everyone knows that PIR was as flexible as any
>>     >     other registry in accepting anyone with a valid international credit
>>     >     card for .org. When the domain was auctioned, APC was the other
>>     >     contender, with a clear proposal to keep the domain as the lair of
>>     >     non-profits. Pity it did not win...
>>     >
>>     >     fraternal regards
>>     >
>>     >     --c.a.
>>     >
>>     >     On 13/11/2019 15:55, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
>>     >     > Thanks Stephanie,
>>     >     > While PIR said, as recently as last week to me, that PIR was not
>>     >     > considering raising .org registration fees,
>>     >     >
>>     >     > I suspect that the new owners will feel that they are under no obligations
>>     >     > to observe the PIR position.
>>     >     > Oddly, the Ethos website misspells the title of the CEO:  Peter
>>     >     > Hayward-Butt, CHEIF EXECUTIVE OFFICER
>>     >     > We shall see.
>>     >     > Sam Lanfranco
>>     >     > ---- Original Message ----From: Stephanie Perrin
>>     >     > To: NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>     >     > Sent: Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 12:41 PM
>>     >     > Subject: ISOC sells PIR
>>     >     >      I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a
>>     >     > slightly different light.  I will keep you posted as I learn more.
>>     >     >
>>     >     >     https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acquire-Public-Interest-Registry-Internet
>>     >     > (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acquire-Public-Interest-Registry-Internet)
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >     >     Stephanie Perrin
>>     >     >
>>     >     >     NCSG Chair
>>     >     >
>>     >     >
>>     >
>>     >     --
>>     >
>>     >     Carlos A. Afonso
>>     >     [emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente indicado em contrário]
>>     >     [emails are personal unless explicitly indicated otherwise]
>>     >
>>     >     Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
>>     >     ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
>>     >
>>     >
>>
>>     --
>>
>>     Carlos A. Afonso
>>     [emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente indicado em contrário]
>>     [emails are personal unless explicitly indicated otherwise]
>>
>>     Instituto Nupef - https://nupef.org.br
>>     ISOC-BR - https://isoc.org.br
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