Council Member replacement
Remmy Nweke
remmyn at GMAIL.COM
Fri Dec 20 06:58:20 EET 2019
Thanks Farrel for the explanation.
And also James, I agree with you but will it not better to streamline this
against future conflict with specifics on country of origin as I am sure
this will not be the last on less the charter is amended.
And for exigency we may amend specific clause as convention demands if
amending the entire charter is a long haul.
Regards
RN
On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 8:55 AM James Gannon <lists at icann.guru> wrote:
> Its certainly my understanding that you can self determine that in your
> SOI and the residence requirement is a guideline to help folks who may not
> be sure or who travel and live abroad for work. If you feel that AF is the
> appropriate region then my interpretation of GNSO rules is that you are
> fully entitled to convey that to staff and record it in your SOI.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> *James Gannon*
>
>
>
> *From: *Ekue Farell Folly <farell at benin2point0.org>
> *Reply to: *"farell at benin2point0.org" <farell at benin2point0.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 18 December 2019 at 07:50
> *To: *James Gannon <lists at ICANN.GURU>, "NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> *Subject: *Re: Council Member replacement
>
>
>
> Thx James for this reminder.
>
>
>
>
>
> During election, *I applied as from the AFRICA region in my statement*.
> However, during the Montreal meeting the GNSO staff told me that the
> country of residence fits more to be displayed and be announced when people
> want to refer to me (also for travels). I guess that is why ICANN GNSO page
> displays EU for my region as it seems to be the country of residence
> (Germany) that matters for them. However, I also think that one could
> choose between two countries of residence, and especially tell them (GNSO
> Council support staff) to change back to AF... again this needs to be
> clarified i.o.t know what they need or intend to display on that page.
>
>
>
>
>
> Refering to Tapani's message, I also always thought that it is the country
> of origin that matters, otherwise; we could have all councillors from one
> single continent while they all live or declare residence on another
> continent.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 12:42 +0000, James Gannon wrote:
>
> Apart from Farrell (Can you please update your SOI to indicate a region
> Farrell) all of the regions on the GNSO Council site below match the
> declared SOIs.
>
>
>
> ---
>
> James Gannon
>
>
>
> From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>
> Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 12:40
>
> To: James Gannon <lists at ICANN.GURU>, "NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>
> Subject: Re: Council Member replacement
>
>
>
> You are correct James...my apologies for assuming the other page was
> correct. I think we must check and make sure, I will go back in the
> records and verify which was declared in the respective elections, because
> there seem to be more than one inaccuracy in here.
>
> cheers Stephanie
>
> On 2019-12-17 07:32, James Gannon wrote:
>
> For Council elections/selections the relevant source of truth is the GNSO
> SOI's and Council declarations mentioned here:
>
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council
>
>
>
> Rafik Dammak (SOI) - AAPAC (AGM 2020)
>
> Elsa Saade (SOI) – NA – (AGM 2020)
>
> Tatiana Tropina (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
>
> Martin Silva Valent (SOI) – LAC (AGM 2020)
>
> Farell Folly (SOI) – EU (AGM 2021)
>
> Farzaneh Badii (SOI) – NA (AGM 2021)
>
>
>
> ---
>
> James Gannon
>
>
>
> On 17.12.19, 12:30, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi James,
>
>
>
> My apologies if I made a mistake, but looking at the page Stephanie
>
> pointed to, I see the regions as follows:
>
>
>
> Africa: Rafik Dammak and Farell Folly
>
> Asia-Pacific: Elsa Saade
>
> Europe: Tatiana Tropina
>
> Latin America: Martin Pablo Valent
>
>
>
> Cf. https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg
>
>
>
> If that's not correct then my analysis obviously needs to be adjusted
>
> accordingly. I am aware that Rafik lives in Japan, but our rules and
>
> precedents give some leeway for people who have ties in multiple
>
> regions to choose which they choose to declare (I oversimplified in
>
> saying residence is the determining factor), and I presumed the above
>
> page to indicate Rafik has chosen to declare Africa according to his
>
> native Tunisia.
>
>
>
> Tapani
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 17 12:03, James Gannon (lists at icann.guru) wrote:
>
>
>
> > This doesn't match with the current declared regions of our
> councilors, I think it would be most appropriate for the EC to weigh in on
> eligibility concerns.
>
> >
>
> > ---
>
> > James Gannon
>
> >
>
> > On 17.12.19, 06:29, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU on behalf of ncsg at TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi James,
>
> >
>
> > Yes, you are eligible, indeed in a slightly favoured position.
>
> >
>
> > It's residence that counts, not country of origin. If you live
> and pay
>
> > taxes in the USA or Canada, you are North American for this
> purpose.
>
> >
>
> > Otherwise, looking at current council composition and NCSG
> charter,
>
> > the situation is briefly like this:
>
> >
>
> > * An African can only be selected if there are no other viable
>
> > candidates (as there already are two Africans). This is a hard
>
> > rule, "To the maximum extent possible", but as noted it would
>
> > not exclude you if you are North American resident now.
>
> >
>
> > * Of two otherwise equally competent candidates, a North American
>
> > would be preferred over others and a woman over a man. These are
>
> > softer rules, "Reasonable efforts", so other qualifications could
>
> > be more important.
>
> >
>
> > Tapani
>
> >
>
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:33:37PM -0600, KASWESHA (
> kaswesha at GMAIL.COM) wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > I am currently settled in North America but I am not very sure
> whether I am
>
> > > eligible. Somebody advise.
>
> > >
>
> > > Regards;
>
> > >
>
> > > James Njoroge Gitau
>
> > >
>
> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Stephanie Perrin <
>
> > > stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > As members will have seen, Farzaneh Badii has resigned her
> council seat,
>
> > > > so it is the responsibility of the NCSG Executive Committee
> to select a
>
> > > > replacement until the next election takes place in summer
> 2020. In order
>
> > > > to enable this, we are seeking expressions of interest in
> the position.
>
> > > > Please send your statement of interest to me, copy Maryam
> Bakoshi, before
>
> > > > the 28th of December. For your interest, the relevant
> section of the
>
> > > > Charter concerning these circumstances is paragraph 2,
> section 3.2 (copied
>
> > > > below). For information about the current composition of
> the council see
>
> > > >
> https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg. We
>
> > > > appear to have representation from everywhere except North
> America.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Stephanie Perrin
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Section 3.2 para 2
>
> > > >
>
> > > > In the event that a GNSO Council Representatives is unable
> to finish his
>
> > > > or her term, the NCSG EC will appoint a temporary GNSO
> Council
>
> > > > Representative to serve until the next regularly scheduled
> election as
>
> > > > provided in Section 3.8 of the GOP. At that time, a new
> GNSO Council
>
> > > > Representative will be elected to serve out the balance of
> the vacated
>
> > > > term, if any.
>
> > > >
>
> > > >
>
> >
>
> > --
>
> > Tapani Tarvainen
>
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
>
>
>
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