<div dir="auto">Thanks Farrel for the explanation.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And also James, I agree with you but will it not better to streamline this against future conflict with specifics on country of origin as I am sure this will not be the last on less the charter is amended.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And for exigency we may amend specific clause as convention demands if amending the entire charter is a long haul.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">RN</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 18, 2019, 8:55 AM James Gannon <lists@icann.guru> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Its certainly my understanding that you can self determine that in your SOI and the residence requirement is a guideline to help folks who may not be sure or who travel and live abroad
for work. If you feel that AF is the appropriate region then my interpretation of GNSO rules is that you are fully entitled to convey that to staff and record it in your SOI.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Ekue Farell Folly <<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farell@benin2point0.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply to: </b>"<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farell@benin2point0.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farell@benin2point0.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, 18 December 2019 at 07:50<br>
<b>To: </b>James Gannon <lists@ICANN.GURU>, "<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: Council Member replacement<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thx James for this reminder.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">During election, <b>I applied as from the AFRICA region in my statement</b>. However, during the Montreal meeting the GNSO staff told me that the country of residence fits more to be displayed and be announced when people want to refer
to me (also for travels). I guess that is why ICANN GNSO page displays EU for my region as it seems to be the country of residence (Germany) that matters for them. However, I also think that one could choose between two countries of residence, and especially
tell them (GNSO Council support staff) to change back to AF... again this needs to be clarified i.o.t know what they need or intend to display on that page.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Refering to Tapani's message, I also always thought that it is the country of origin that matters, otherwise; we could have all councillors from one single continent while they all live or declare residence on another continent.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 12:42 +0000, James Gannon wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apart from Farrell (Can you please update your SOI to indicate a region Farrell) all of the regions on the GNSO Council site below match the declared SOIs.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 12:40<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: James Gannon <<a href="mailto:lists@ICANN.GURU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lists@ICANN.GURU</a>>, "<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: Council Member replacement<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You are correct James...my apologies for assuming the other page was correct. I think we must check and make sure, I will go back in the records and verify which was declared in the respective elections, because there seem to be more than
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<p class="MsoNormal">cheers Stephanie <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2019-12-17 07:32, James Gannon wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For Council elections/selections the relevant source of truth is the GNSO SOI's and Council declarations mentioned here:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/council</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rafik Dammak (SOI) - AAPAC (AGM 2020)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 17.12.19, 12:30, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a> on behalf of
<a href="mailto:ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> My apologies if I made a mistake, but looking at the page Stephanie<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Cf. <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">
https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> If that's not correct then my analysis obviously needs to be adjusted<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> accordingly. I am aware that Rafik lives in Japan, but our rules and<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> precedents give some leeway for people who have ties in multiple<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> On Dec 17 12:03, James Gannon (<a href="mailto:lists@icann.guru" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lists@icann.guru</a>) wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > This doesn't match with the current declared regions of our councilors, I think it would be most appropriate for the EC to weigh in on eligibility concerns.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > On 17.12.19, 06:29, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a> on behalf of
<a href="mailto:ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > Hi James,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > Yes, you are eligible, indeed in a slightly favoured position.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > It's residence that counts, not country of origin. If you live and pay<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > taxes in the USA or Canada, you are North American for this purpose.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > Otherwise, looking at current council composition and NCSG charter,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > the situation is briefly like this:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > * An African can only be selected if there are no other viable<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > not exclude you if you are North American resident now.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > * Of two otherwise equally competent candidates, a North American<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > be more important.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:33:37PM -0600, KASWESHA (<a href="mailto:kaswesha@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kaswesha@GMAIL.COM</a>) wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > eligible. Somebody advise.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > Regards;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > James Njoroge Gitau<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 12:34 PM Stephanie Perrin <<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > As members will have seen, Farzaneh Badii has resigned her council seat,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > so it is the responsibility of the NCSG Executive Committee to select a<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > to enable this, we are seeking expressions of interest in the position.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > Please send your statement of interest to me, copy Maryam Bakoshi, before<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > the 28th of December. For your interest, the relevant section of the<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > below). For information about the current composition of the council see<u></u><u></u></p>
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https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg.</a> We<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> > > > appear to have representation from everywhere except North America.<u></u><u></u></p>
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