[Urgent] [Public Comment] Proposed Renewal of .org Registry Agreement
Kathy Kleiman
kathy at DNRC.TECH
Sat Apr 27 12:31:45 EEST 2019
Tx you, Akriti, and tx for writing such a great comment!
On 4/26/2019 11:56 PM, Akriti wrote:
> Thanks for the reference, Kathy! I hope as many community members as
> possible can voice their concerns and help avert the problematic
> consequences of the proposal.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* NCSG-Discuss <ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu> on behalf of
> Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 04:50
> *To:* ncsg-discuss at listserv.syr.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Urgent] [Public Comment] Proposed Renewal of .org
> Registry Agreement
> Hi Milton, Amr and All,
>
> Unfortunately, I read the contract differently and fear that the
> current 10 million .ORG registrants face a difficult (and expensive)
> future. To Milton's excellent question, /What, exactly, are those
> “protections for existing registrants”?/, the answer is /"not much."/
> Here's the pricing provisions of the .ORG proposed agreement (and I’ve
> been checking with domain name attorneys all afternoon):
>
> 2.10(a) Registries provide registrars with a 30 day notice of price
> increases (registrations).
>
> 2.10(b) “With respect to renewal of domain name registrants” Registry
> will provide registrars with “advance written notice of any price
> increase, and “Registry Operator shall offer registrars the option to
> obtain domain name registration renewals at the current price (i.e.,
> the price in place prior to any noticed increase) for periods of one
> (1) to ten (10) years at the discretion of the registrar, but no
> greater than ten (10) years.”
>
> */But the option to allow renewal for 1 to 10 years is at the option
> of the registrar. There’s nothing that requires the registrar to
> notify registrants that the price of their .ORG domain names will be
> going (possibly dramatically) and that the time to renew is now. This
> is something that is being written about a lot, but I don’t see it in
> the contract. (Some registrars may let their registrants know early;
> others may not.) There is absolutely no requirement of notice to the
> registrant of a price increase for renewals – for .ORG (or any other
> registry which has signed this agreement). /**//**//*
>
> 2.10(c) “In addition, Registry Operator must have uniform pricing for
> renewals of domain name registrations (“Renewal Pricing”). For the
> purposes of determining Renewal Pricing, the price for each domain
> registration renewal must be identical to the price of all other
> domain name registration renewals at the time of such renewal” with
> some vague additional language about not wanting to allow abusive and
> discriminatory renewal pricing.
>
> */Thus, PIR’s job is to charge all registrars the same price for new
> registrations and renewals – whatever that price is and however much
> PIR wants to charge. This is no guidance about abusive and
> discriminatory renewal pricing, no definitions and no clear
> limitations. /*
>
> Overall, I think Akriti Bopanna’s comment for The Centre for Internet
> and Society, India, today is right on point:
>
> *“Removal of Price Caps*
>
> “ICANN’s decision to remove price caps in the .org agreement will only
> intensify the unfettered power given to Registries with the
> presumption of renewal. The
>
> organization has long heard accusations of engaging in closed door
> decision making
>
> and with such a move that pushes for the rights of registries over
> registrars, such
>
> concerns are only growing. As it is, .org can raise its prices by 10%
> every year which is
>
> unduly generous in itself.5 Giving PIR a limitless ability to increase
> prices would be
>
> doing grave injustice to domain owners who have bought such domains
> under the
>
> assumption of price caps. This is in contrast to the new gTLDS where
> there is more of
>
> a burden on such owners to keep up with the actions of private owners.
> Legacy
>
> gTLDS, unlike the new ones, were not created and sold to private
> entities but handed
>
> over to entities like PIR to maintain them in public interest.
>
> “Being one of the first TLD’s to be introduced, a multitude of
> significant websites and
>
> therein, initiatives, have their home on the .org domain. As pointed
> out in the
>
> community discussions several times, these domains are used by NGO’s,
> nonprofit
>
> trade associations, individual member associations as well as
> tax-exempt charities.6
>
> ICANN’s justification for proposing these steps is to align legacy
> gTLD agreements with those of the other newer gTLDS but as argued by
> the Internet Commerce
>
> Association;
>
> “They have completely different characteristics, history, and ownership
>
> structure. It is not acceptable for ICANN to ignore these differences
> and to
>
> propose that they be treated the same.7
>
> “Given the longevity of these domains on .org, they have put in
> substantial investment
>
> in maintaining their online presence and cultivating their identity
> and brand. They
>
> are entitled to protection from arbitrary pricing and having the same
> financial rules
>
> as when they originally bought their domains. If such caps are removed
> then many of
>
> these domain owners can find it too expensive to maintain their sites,
> especially with
>
> no guarantee of future price stability as well. A look at the mailing
> lists is enough to
>
> see how small organizations are actively pleading with ICANN to not go
> ahead with
>
> this because it will increase their operational costs.8
>
> “None of this is to say that PIR would, in fact, go ahead and increase
> the prices
>
> exorbitantly or at all, however leaving that option to them does not
> bode well for any
>
> party save them. Further, no clear reasoning has been provided for
> such a step like
>
> the need for any additional funds to maintain the domain and in
> absence of any
>
> exceptionally necessary situation, the price cap should continue to
> exist. Given that
>
> PIR is a not-for-profit organization, the rationale to remove caps
> seems even less
>
> unclear than it would be, for say, Verisign. Allowing the removals
> could very well be
>
> opening Pandora’s box with other Registries then demanding removals
> too. Registries
>
> own all the extensions to their domain and lack of a price ceiling
> only enriches the
>
> revenue of, ultimately, the one owner leading to a bigger monopolistic
> situation than
>
> already is currently prevalent.
>
> Needless to say, I support NCSG’s comment too!
>
> Best, Kathy
>
> ----------------------------
>
> Proposed 2019 .ORG Registry Agreement
>
> 2.10 Pricing for Registry Services.
>
> (a) With respect to initial domain name registrations, Registry Operator
>
> shall provide each ICANN accredited registrar that has executed the
> Registry-Registrar
>
> Agreement for the TLD advance written notice of any price increase
> (including as a result
>
> of the elimination of any refunds, rebates, discounts, product tying
> or other programs
>
> which had the effect of reducing the price charged to registrars,
> unless such refunds,
>
> rebates, discounts, product tying or other programs are of a limited
> duration that is clearly
>
> and conspicuously disclosed to the registrar when offered) of no less
> than thirty (30)
>
> calendar days. Registry Operator shall offer registrars the option to
> obtain initial domain
>
> name registrations for periods of one (1) to ten (10) years at the
> discretion of the registrar,
>
> but no greater than ten (10) years.
>
> (b) With respect to renewal of domain name registrations, Registry
>
> Operator shall provide each ICANN accredited registrar that has
> executed the Registry-
>
> Registrar Agreement for the TLD advance written notice of any price
> increase (including as
>
> a result of the elimination of any refunds, rebates, discounts,
> product tying, Qualified
>
> Marketing Programs or other programs which had the effect of reducing
> the price charged
>
> to registrars) of no less than one hundred eighty (180) calendar days.
> Notwithstanding the
>
> foregoing sentence, with respect to renewal of domain name
> registrations: (i) Registry
>
> Operator need only provide thirty (30) calendar days notice of any
> price increase if the
>
> resulting price is less than or equal to (A) for the period beginning
> on the Effective Date
>
> and ending twelve (12) months following the Effective Date, the
> initial price charged for
>
> registrations in the TLD, or (B) for subsequent periods, a price for
> which Registry Operator
>
> provided a notice pursuant to the first sentence of this Section
> 2.10(b) within the twelve
>
> (12) month period preceding the effective date of the proposed price
> increase; and (ii)
>
> Registry Operator need not provide notice of any price increase for
> the imposition of the
>
> Variable Registry-Level Fee set forth in Section 6.3. Registry
> Operator shall offer registrars
>
> the option to obtain domain name registration renewals at the current
> price (i.e., the price in place prior to any noticed increase) for
> periods of one (1) to ten (10) years at the discretion of the
> registrar, but no greater than ten (10) years.
>
> (c) In addition, Registry Operator must have uniform pricing for renewals
>
> of domain name registrations (“Renewal Pricing”). For the purposes of
> determining
>
> Renewal Pricing, the price for each domain registration renewal must
> be identical to the
>
> price of all other domain name registration renewals in place at the
> time of such renewal,
>
> and such price must take into account universal application of any
> refunds, rebates,
>
> discounts, product tying or other programs in place at the time of
> renewal. The foregoing
>
> requirements of this Section 2.10(c) shall not apply for (i) purposes
> of determining
>
> Renewal Pricing if the registrar has provided Registry Operator with
> documentation that
>
> demonstrates that the applicable registrant expressly agreed in its
> registration agreement
>
> with registrar to higher Renewal Pricing at the time of the initial
> registration of the domain
>
> name following clear and conspicuous disclosure of such Renewal
> Pricing to such
>
> registrant, and (ii) discounted Renewal Pricing pursuant to a
> Qualified Marketing Program
>
> (as defined below). The parties acknowledge that the purpose of this
> Section 2.10(c) is to
>
> prohibit abusive and/or discriminatory Renewal Pricing practices
> imposed by Registry
>
> Operator without the written consent of the applicable registrant at
> the time of the initial
>
> registration of the domain and this Section 2.10(c) will be
> interpreted broadly to prohibit
>
> such practices. For purposes of this Section 2.10(c), a “Qualified
> Marketing Program” is a
>
> marketing program pursuant to which Registry Operator offers
> discounted Renewal
>
> Pricing, provided that each of the following criteria is satisfied:
> (i) the program and related
>
> discounts are offered for a period of time not to exceed one hundred
> eighty (180) calendar
>
> days (with consecutive substantially similar programs aggregated for
> purposes of
>
> determining the number of calendar days of the program), (ii) all
> ICANN accredited
>
> registrars are provided the same opportunity to qualify for such
> discounted Renewal
>
> Pricing; and (iii) the intent or effect of the program is not to
> exclude any particular
>
> class(es) of registrations (e.g., registrations held by large
> corporations) or increase the
>
> renewal price of any particular class(es) of registrations. Nothing in
> this Section 2.10(c)
>
> shall limit Registry Operator’s obligations pursuant to Section 2.10(b).
>
> (d) Registry Operator shall provide public query-based DNS lookup
>
> service for the TLD (that is, operate the Registry TLD zone servers)
> at its sole expense.
>
> -------------
>
> Here’s PIR’s current pricing language, from its 2013 agreement:
>
> Section 7.3. Pricing for Domain Name Registrations and Registry Services.
>
> 7.3(a) Pricing. From the Effective Date through 31 December 2013, the
> price to ICANN-accredited registrars for new and renewal domain name
> registrations and for transferring a domain name registration from one
> ICANN-accredited registrar to another, shall not exceed a total fee of
> US$8.25 (the "Maximum Service Fee"). Commencing on 1 January 2014, the
> Maximum Service Fee charged during a calendar year for each annual
> increment of a new and renewal domain name registration and for
> transferring a domain name registration from one ICANN-accredited
> registrar to another, may not exceed the Maximum Service Fee during
> the preceding calendar year multiplied by 1.10. The same Service Fee
> shall be charged to all ICANN-accredited registrars for new and
> renewal domain name registrations. Volume discounts and marketing
> support and incentive programs may be made if the same opportunities
> to qualify for those discounts and marketing support and incentive
> programs is available to all ICANN-accredited registrars.
>
> 7.3(b) Adjustments to Pricing for Domain Name Registrations. Registry
> Operator shall provide no less than six months prior notice in advance
> of any price increase for domain name registrations and shall continue
> to offer domain name registrations for periods of up to ten
> years.Registry Operator is not required to give notice of the
> imposition of the Variable Registry-Level Fee set forth in Section 7.2(c).
>
> ----------------------------
>
> Hi Milton,
>
> If my understanding of Section 2.10 of the Registry Agreement is
> correct, registrars can continue to renew existing registrations
> without an increase in price following an increase in pricing of
> new registrations by the Registry Operator (RO) for a period of up
> to 10 years. Additionally, ROs are required to have uniform
> pricing for registration renewals. This would mean that all
> renewal prices would remain unchanged, unless they all change
> across all registrars simultaneously.
>
> The protections for existing registrants referred to are detailed
> in 2.10c of the Registry Agreement. The protection is basically
> that registrants have to agree to renewal prices higher than that
> of the original registration at the time of the initial
> registration. It can’t be forced upon them at a later date. This
> is meant as a provision to /“prohibit abusive and/or
> discriminatory Renewal Pricing practices imposed by Registry
> Operator without the written consent of the applicable registrant
> at the time of the initial registration of the domain“/.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Amr
>
> On Apr 25, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Mueller, Milton L
> <milton at GATECH.EDU <mailto:milton at GATECH.EDU>> wrote:
>
> I agree with the letter’s discussion of URS and other RPMs. I
> agree with Amr that we may need to moderate the language about
> “unilateral ICANN action” however because PIR may indeed have
> gone along with this.
> On the issue of price caps, I think we need some factual
> clarification. If Amr is right and the potential price
> increases only apply to new registrants, then there is much
> less of an issue. The proposed renewal says “Protections for
> existing registrants will remain in place, in line with the
> base registry agreement.“
> What, exactly, are those “protections for existing registrants”?
> MM
> *From:*NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>>*On Behalf Of*Amr Elsadr
> *Sent:*Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:33 AM
> *To:*NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> *Subject:*Re: [Urgent] [Public Comment] Proposed Renewal of
> .org Registry Agreement
> Hi,
> Thanks for sharing this, Rafik. Speaking for myself, I very
> much agree with the comment on adding the new gTLD Rights
> Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) to the PIR contract for .org at
> this time. As the draft comment rightly points out, these RPMs
> will not actually be Consensus Policies until after the ICANN
> Board adopts the recommendations of the Review of all RPMs in
> all gTLDs PDP Working Group, and should not apply to any of
> the legacy gTLDs, including .org. However to characterize the
> decision to do so as a unilateral ICANN decision is something
> I’m not sure of. I presume that PIR negotiated this with ICANN
> before the public comment period began? I might be wrong, as
> I’m making an assumption here.
> To be clear, the RPMs that would be applicable here (if I’m
> not mistaken) are the Uniform Rapid Suspension (URS) and the
> Trademark Claims RPM (part of the Trademark Clearing House),
> but not the Sunrise Registrations RPM, obviously, since .org
> has been around for a while.
> Substantively, I don’t believe the URS will be much of an
> issue, since it is largely deemed to be an unappealing
> mechanism for use by Trademark holders, as the stats and
> anecdotal evidence that has been shared to date indicate. The
> impact of Trademark Claims, on the other hand, might be very
> different, and prior to it being reviewed by the RPMs PDP, and
> adopted as an ICANN policy, I don’t believe adding it to the
> .org contract in a renewal is a good move.
> On the second issue, where the draft comment disagrees with
> removing price caps for .org registrations, I’m pretty sure I
> don’t agree with the rationale or conclusion. I don’t believe
> PIR’s status as a non-profit entity justifies this. IMO, it
> imposes unreasonable obligations on PIR that other Registry
> Operators are not subject to, so effectively penalizing PIR
> for its status, and its continued mission to/“support many
> excellent causes”/, as pointed out in the draft.
> Furthermore, there is little to no evidence that I can see (at
> least in the draft) that registrants of .org domain names will
> be negatively impacted by removal of the price cap. My
> understanding is that this will mainly impact new
> registrations, not existing ones, but this isn’t addressed at all.
> To me, PIR needs to set its own price taking in to
> consideration their own consumer base. If they make bad
> decisions that drive their customers away, I don’t believe
> this will negatively impact registrants as much as it would
> PIR itself, especially considering that there are over a
> thousand gTLDs for registrants to migrate to, should they
> choose to do so.
> Thanks.
> Amr
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Rafik Dammak
> <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM <mailto:rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM>>
> wrote:
> Hi all,
> We have a suggested draft comment ( attached) on proposed
> renewal of .org agreement
> https://www.icann.org/public-comments/org-renewal-2019-03-18-en.
> The deadline for submission is the 29th April and for NCSG
> PC to review and endorse. Please share your comments abd
> input.
> Best Regards,
> Rafik
> <Org Letter Rev.docx>
>
>
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Kathy Kleiman
Visiting Scholar, Center for Information Technology, Princeton University
President (on leave), Domain Name Rights Coalition
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