[For comment] Membership approval guidelines

[farzaneh badii]

Tapani

This really is becoming scenario of absurd! Robin in September 2017 when
you were the chair of NCSG shared these procedures on the mailing list. See
below. You never said then that this should be voted by membership.  Robin
explicitly said if there are no significant concenrs they should go forward
as NCSG operating procedure in the coming weeks.  Despite having you
answering to members inquiries not a single time you contested what Robin
said. https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A1=ind1709&L=NCSG-DISCUSS#44 had
you not agreed with her then?

I shared the same procedures for members again to weigh in and comment on
June 2018. Gave the members three weeks to respond with all the previous
year thread in place. No one objected. No one said approved should be
interpreted that members vote.  And again you were not around. Document had
only minor editorial changes. and then it was approved:
https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1806&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&P=138383

I don't know what is happening. This has happened before where I had to
again refer to the previously mentioned links and discussions. Would you
like to undo things that were supposed to be done during your term? Go
ahead. I take no pride in finalizing things that others should have done.
Would you like these membership changes procedures be voted by the
membership? Sure, lets see how much support you get here and you can also
submit a letter to EC requesting it.





Robin Gross robin at ipjustice.org via
<https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> listserv.syr.edu
[image: Attachments]Sep 2, 2017, 1:51 PM
to NCSG-DISCUSS
Hello,

Please find the attached procedures for handling changes in one's NCSG
membership status, which is intended to formalize our EC’s operation on
such matters.  If there are no significant concerns with these procedures,
they should go forward as an NCSG operating procedure in the coming weeks.

Thanks,



On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:34 AM Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
wrote:

> Dear Farzaneh,
>
> Yes, that's what I mean. As our charter explicitly says member removal
> procedures are subject to membership approval, that presumably means
> something - that approving member removal procedures requires something
> more than other procedures the EC can do by itself.
>
> "2.2.6 Procedural rules
>
> The Executive Committee shall create procedural rules for membership
> and for existing members to maintain their good standing or for
> removal of membership for cause. ***Any such procedure will be subject
> to membership approval.***"
>
> To me such language implies a vote by the membership or some other
> extraordinary procedure.
>
> So, how did EC obtain that approval from membership?
>
> Or how do you interpret that sentence in the charter?
>
> Tapani
>
> On Sep 11 07:53, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > Tapani,
> >
> > Sorry I am so surprised that I have to ask: you mean how the removal
> > procedure got approved given that they are subject to membership
> approval?
> > The procedures I sent the link to and are on our website?
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 3:47 AM Tapani Tarvainen <
> ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Farzaneh,
> > >
> > > Given that our charter specifically requires them to be subject
> > > to membership approval, how was that done?
> > >
> > > Tapani
> > >
> > > On Sep 11 03:20, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tapani
> > > >
> > > > Those removal procedures were approved a couple of months ago and
> now on
> > > > the website:
> > > >
> > >
> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Operating+Procedures#OperatingProcedures-169034239
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
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