Procedures/Individual/organizations membership at NCSG

farzaneh badii farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM
Sun Sep 9 13:17:23 EEST 2018


Thank you Tapani. I think you are right that these procedures about
membership limits need more reflection and comments from the community
before we implement anything. But I do encourage more discussion about
this, our membership is expanding and we might need them at some point.





Farzaneh


On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 12:46 PM Tapani Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
wrote:

> Dear Farzaneh,
>
> My apologies for poor wording, I did not intend to blame you but
> to offer what I thought was constructive criticism.
>
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 09:22:46AM -0400, farzaneh badii (
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > Well there is no doubt that the charter said the EC is in charge of
> > setting membership limits.
>
> Some, yes, but the EC can't set arbitrary limits.
>
> There is one special case where such a limit clearly can be set (but
> that case is not covered in the proposed procedures at all), and one
> where it's somewhat debatable. In either case a rule that'd apply to
> old members (as opposed to approving new ones) cannot be set by the EC
> alone (there's a special provision for member removal procedures in
> our charter).
>
> > I don't know what you mean by legal. Under which law???
>
> GDPR and any number of other privacy laws.
>
> > It's nearing the end of my term and I have many more things to do,
> > this is not a priority. Either you can make substantive constructive
> > changes to these procedures instead of just thrashing them (by
> > simply just removing the paragraph and say let's not set a limit) or
> > we can leave them unapproved and forget about them.
>
> I'm sorry if my criticism came out as trashing. But I do think you are
> rushing these too much. I won't edit the text because this is not mere
> word-smithing and it would be better to make the arguments in a
> publicly-archived mailing list.
>
> And I don't want to simply remove the paragraph because I think
> some such rule would probably be a good thing to have, I just
> want to have it done right.
>
> > It was not done during the past chairs terms, I don't think it will
> > kill us if it doesn't get approved now either nor during
> > Stephanie's. I had just promised procedures during my campaign, I
> > wanted to deliver what I promised but I think I have done enough
>
> Agreed on all that. Nobody will blame you for failing such a promise,
> rather you are to be commended for making the attempt. There's only so
> much one person can do, and you have done a lot.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> --
> Tapani Tarvainen
>
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