Attendance and Recording | Monthly NCSG Policy Call | 22 May 2018; 12:00 UTC
Juan Manuel Rojas
jumaropi at YAHOO.COM
Tue May 22 16:35:42 EEST 2018
Dear all, Please apologize me, I was lost in time conversion, I get confused with May 24th call. I will review the recording. Kind Regards,
JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.
Presidente - AGEIA DENSI ColombiaCommunications Committee Chair. Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) - ICANNCluster Orinoco TIC memberMaster IT candidate, Universidad de los Andes
Cel. +57 3017435600
Twitter: @JmanuRojas
El martes, 22 de mayo de 2018 3:21:28 p. m. GMT-5, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at GMAIL.COM> escribió:
Apologies people,I missed this meeting but have read through the transcript.
RegardsRemmy
____REMMY NWEKE, mNGE, Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
DigitalSENSE Africa Media [Multiple-award winning medium]
(DigitalSENSE Business News; ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet)Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: @ITRealms
Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable (June 6, 2018 Cooperative Hall, Oshodi-Isolo Secretariat, Oshodi-Lagos. JOIN us!!
*Vice President, African Civil Society on the Information Society (ACSIS)_________________________________________________________________
*Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> wrote:
Dear All,
Please find attendance and recording of the Monthly NCSG Policy Call on 22 May 2018 at 12:00 UTC.
Attendance: Farell Folly, Bruna Martins Santos, Olga Kyryliuk, Flavio Andre Garces Heredia, Konan Montresor, Rafik Dammak, Caleb Ogundele, Ayden Ferdeline, Tatiana Tropina, Martin Silva, Poncelet Ileleji, Shah Rahman, Vrikson Acosta, Farzaneh Badii, G Z Kabir, Stephanie Perrin, Ziyam Abdeen, Thato Mfikwe, Olevie Kouami, Avri Doria, Joan Katambi, Peter Taiwo Akinremi | Staff: Adam Peake, Maryam Bakoshi
MP3:https://icann.box.com/shared/ static/ vtn2a024oq2l4yrmyu7f6fw1j81rec z8.mp3 [icann.box.com]
Transcript will be posted once received to:https://community.icann.org/x/ Bh7xAg
Chat:
05/22/2018 12:34:54 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
thanks Julie1
05/22/2018 12:35:00 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
oups :)
05/22/2018 12:36:34 PM from Maryam Bakoshi to All Participants:
Dear All, welcome to the Monthly NCSG Policy Call on Tuesday 22 May 2018 at 1200 UTC
05/22/2018 13:00:49 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
Good morning, everyone!
05/22/2018 13:02:03 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
hi all
05/22/2018 13:02:33 PM from Shah Rahman to All Participants:
hello Rafik
05/22/2018 13:02:54 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
Hi all
05/22/2018 13:03:21 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
Hi all, i am Flavio from Colombia :D
05/22/2018 13:03:27 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
hi Flavio!
05/22/2018 13:03:39 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
hi all
05/22/2018 13:03:42 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
:D
05/22/2018 13:13:27 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
test, sorry to be late
05/22/2018 13:13:36 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
test is working
05/22/2018 13:14:39 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
I think council should work on styling their agenda more. like beautify it. and make it look better ...
05/22/2018 13:15:11 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
the agenda looks better in Adobe Connect... it's actually legible!! :)
05/22/2018 13:16:15 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
if you struggle to read it, like me, the pdf agenda is here https://gnso.icann.org/sites/ default/files/file/field-file- attach/agenda-council-24may18- en.pdf
05/22/2018 13:16:16 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
jajajaja
05/22/2018 13:16:46 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
struglle? I almost went blind. also probably we need to aadd topic related pictures
05/22/2018 13:16:52 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
thanks for the link
05/22/2018 13:16:53 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
thanks Ayden, and yes Farzi, is unnecesary criptic
05/22/2018 13:17:26 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
is there any comment from Gannon, our rep?
05/22/2018 13:19:04 PM from Thato Mfikwe to All Participants:
Hi all, cant hear anything, maybe it is my settings.
05/22/2018 13:19:26 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
YES
05/22/2018 13:19:29 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
i can hear
05/22/2018 13:19:29 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
we can hear you !
05/22/2018 13:19:39 PM from Shah Rahman to All Participants:
yes
05/22/2018 13:19:40 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
we can hear you
05/22/2018 13:20:23 PM from Thato Mfikwe to All Participants:
Ok
05/22/2018 13:21:06 PM from Konan Montresor to All Participants:
hello all
05/22/2018 13:21:13 PM from Ziyam Abdeen to All Participants:
Thanks for the link
05/22/2018 13:29:04 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
for ATRT, I really don't think we should postpone it
05/22/2018 13:29:19 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
but agree with your point.
05/22/2018 13:31:01 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
I can see you feel strongly about this one Rafik, and I agree with what you are saying, but I want to make a small point about process.
05/22/2018 13:31:14 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
me???
05/22/2018 13:31:38 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
I got voluntold again :) result of having a big mouth. sure
05/22/2018 13:32:08 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
fair point on the review team members Ayden
05/22/2018 13:43:31 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
very gracefully!
05/22/2018 13:47:54 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
I don't like this chat part of WebEX. Adobe lets me express myself better.... Bring back adobeee
05/22/2018 13:49:53 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
None of the disruptors from the RDS group participated in that call.
05/22/2018 13:50:52 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
I hope we will be on dobe next time
05/22/2018 13:50:57 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
*Adobe
05/22/2018 13:51:37 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
we need our dobe dose!
05/22/2018 13:51:49 PM from Thato Mfikwe to All Participants:
:)
05/22/2018 13:52:18 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
Farz, it's a heavy drug :)
05/22/2018 13:53:49 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
we really just have 3.5 months!
05/22/2018 13:54:09 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
@Ayden see it as a PDP bootcamp :)
05/22/2018 13:56:40 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
new hand
05/22/2018 13:57:15 PM from Farell Folly to All Participants:
Sorry Guys, I have to leave you in 20 min. I am very sorry. Will listen to the record. Thanks for your understanding.
05/22/2018 13:57:50 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
thanks for attending Farrell!
05/22/2018 13:58:02 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
we need a budget for legal advice from day 1 of the EPDP, i think telephoning into every call, and i am almost tempted to say we should make the EPDP do a three week long face to face and not leave LA until they have an initial report ready and agreed... ;-) need to work differently on this one
05/22/2018 13:58:25 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
I agree...
05/22/2018 14:01:19 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
is there any benefit to an external facilitator, i.e. a trade negotiator, with no knowledge of WHOIS, being the chair?
05/22/2018 14:01:46 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
(aside from animosity because they'd be paid thousands of dollars an hour and we're volunteers)
05/22/2018 14:04:10 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
I was actually thinking along those lines, but we would have to influence the contract or ICANN will pick a Washington type. No washington negotiator/lobbiest would be acceptable to me, to determine an EU law compliant approach
05/22/2018 14:05:07 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
link to email with all notes, recordings and document presenting the models https://listserv.syr.edu/ scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1805&L= NCSG-DISCUSS&X= 2B503811B950D0BB2E&Y=rafik. dammak%40gmail.com&P=80302
05/22/2018 14:05:10 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
Thomas Rickert would be a great choice, seasoned trusted Chair and knows the law :-)
05/22/2018 14:05:18 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
and we have no budget... where will ICANN org find the $ from for this, i wonder?
05/22/2018 14:05:26 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
Thomas Rickert would be brilliant
05/22/2018 14:05:43 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
@Stephanie Thomas is good but not really neutral on the matter ;)
05/22/2018 14:05:50 PM from Avri to All Participants:
And he is good at neutrality when in the role
05/22/2018 14:05:52 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
different issue Farz, much less polarizing.
05/22/2018 14:05:54 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
i think he is objective
05/22/2018 14:06:06 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
Yes I know Fik, it was kind of a joke...
05/22/2018 14:06:11 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
but he is a great chair
05/22/2018 14:07:12 PM from Avri to All Participants:
Are co-chairs being considered, two people who are good at neutrality from each side of the issue
05/22/2018 14:07:30 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
can we talk about whether we should involve the other SO ACs?
05/22/2018 14:07:39 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
as observers, sure, but as members?
05/22/2018 14:07:59 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
what if the GAC sends us someone from the US gov and ALAC sends us the RDS RT Chair?
05/22/2018 14:08:21 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
so these are the things we need to put in the excel sheet
05/22/2018 14:08:31 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
who is coming up with the pros and cons?
05/22/2018 14:08:31 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
I think a professional alternative dispute resolution person could call the chairs whenever there was bias shown. WHile I think CHuck Gomes is a great chair, he should have called the disruptors more often than he did, and The Ombudsman was not really helpful, also did not intervene.
05/22/2018 14:08:33 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
:)
05/22/2018 14:09:50 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
3.5 months to get a first draft, there will need to be a face to face between meetings for this group to make progress, i reckon
05/22/2018 14:09:58 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
you may count on it, the ALAC liaison will want to be there
05/22/2018 14:10:26 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
I think it will be very difficult to exclude the GAC.
05/22/2018 14:10:54 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
oh someeomne put the chair on hold
05/22/2018 14:10:54 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
And with 100 new members, it will be difficult to find experienced folks.
05/22/2018 14:11:00 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
what? are all on hold?!
05/22/2018 14:11:01 PM from Rafik Dammak to All Participants:
can you hear me?
05/22/2018 14:11:04 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
no
05/22/2018 14:11:05 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
no i can't Rafik
05/22/2018 14:11:09 PM from Peter Taiwo Akinremi to All Participants:
Hi all
05/22/2018 14:11:12 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
yes
05/22/2018 14:11:12 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
yes
05/22/2018 14:11:12 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
now yes
05/22/2018 14:11:14 PM from Peter Taiwo Akinremi to All Participants:
Yes
05/22/2018 14:11:14 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
yes
05/22/2018 14:11:14 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
now yes
05/22/2018 14:11:15 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
yes now we can
05/22/2018 14:11:23 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
jejeje
05/22/2018 14:11:33 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
that was trippy
05/22/2018 14:11:38 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
not funny!
05/22/2018 14:11:38 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
indeed
05/22/2018 14:14:06 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
is someone taking the Release of one .com?
05/22/2018 14:14:25 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
good!
05/22/2018 14:14:35 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
Join us, Martin
05/22/2018 14:14:37 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
!1
05/22/2018 14:14:45 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
sure
05/22/2018 14:14:46 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
oh my god I volunteered for .com public comment ... totally forgot
05/22/2018 14:14:51 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
jajaja
05/22/2018 14:14:57 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
where we can join those open public comment?
05/22/2018 14:15:00 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
haha
05/22/2018 14:15:13 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
we have to stop Farzaneh from volunteering
05/22/2018 14:15:16 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
Flávio, for each of them Rafik sets a placeholder google docs
05/22/2018 14:15:23 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
and he also sends the calls on the list
05/22/2018 14:15:34 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
and we can simply say: Hi, i want to join!
05/22/2018 14:15:56 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
oh great, thanks Bruna :D
05/22/2018 14:17:26 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
I can do a comment on RPM if you want, we have something coming up
05/22/2018 14:19:52 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
I thought we managed to kill that proposal?
05/22/2018 14:21:50 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
we managed to soften it, but is not dead
05/22/2018 14:22:01 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
sure
05/22/2018 14:22:13 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
dead is better than softened :)
05/22/2018 14:22:58 PM from Martin Silva to All Participants:
ajjaja
05/22/2018 14:24:50 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
I will, most definitely map out the discussions and send an update to the list soon
05/22/2018 14:27:34 PM from Farzaneh Badii to All Participants:
the number of times Stephanie says ICANN's failure :))
05/22/2018 14:30:08 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
I think it is the hangover from writing the dissertation....I had to clean out all the biased language and pretend to be neutral there....now I have a slingshot effect happening.
05/22/2018 14:30:13 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
:-)
05/22/2018 14:35:17 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
can you hear me?
05/22/2018 14:35:19 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
no
05/22/2018 14:35:25 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
now?
05/22/2018 14:35:56 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
Yes, this is very interesting Steph! Discussion on a data protection law is at full speed here in brazil and we have been hearing some absurd coments such as: GDPR is not a fight for more rights, the user cannot fully exercise the rights we gave them.
05/22/2018 14:43:00 PM from Avri to All Participants:
There is a footnote about this that state that if the views happen they will be funded and i think it explains the mechanism. But yes it is tilting toward not doing the review
05/22/2018 14:43:15 PM from Avri to All Participants:
... if the reviews happen ...
05/22/2018 14:43:18 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
There are serious limits to what the individual can do on his/her own to exercise rights. Just like we regulate roads and water quality, we need to ensure sound data protection practices at different levels...
05/22/2018 14:43:40 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
me me !
05/22/2018 14:45:33 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
There is a need to evaluate ROI from ALAC. They want to do policy work, but we need a critical analysis of what their output is.
05/22/2018 14:45:44 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
Just as we do for ourselves, of course....
05/22/2018 14:45:56 PM from Stephanie Perrin to All Participants:
But their resources are disproportionate....
05/22/2018 14:47:48 PM from Ayden Férdeline to All Participants:
thanks all
05/22/2018 14:47:54 PM from Tatiana Tropina to All Participants:
thanks all
05/22/2018 14:47:55 PM from Peter Taiwo Akinremi to All Participants:
Thanks
05/22/2018 14:47:55 PM from Bruna Martins Santos to All Participants:
thanks all
05/22/2018 14:48:02 PM from Shah Rahman to All Participants:
thanks all
05/22/2018 14:48:03 PM from Olga Kyryliuk to All Participants:
Thanks all
05/22/2018 14:48:26 PM from Flavio Andre Garces Heredia to All Participants:
thanks all
--
Many thanks,
Maryam Bakoshi |SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann |T: +44 7737698036
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-discuss/attachments/20180522/f790947a/attachment.htm>
More information about the Ncsg-discuss
mailing list