Elsa Saade as temp alternate to Arsene on GNSO Council

Mon Jun 25 12:07:24 EEST 2018

Dear All,

Seconded also Dorothy proposition.

Kind Regards

Poncelet

On 25 June 2018 at 16:59, Onica Makwakwa <
000003e73cab5e78-dmarc-request at listserv.syr.edu> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I second that suggestion from Dorothy as I suspect this will be a greater
> challenge for Barcelona (based on past experience dealing with their
> embassies in this region). Beyond just escalating this, we need to have a
> conversation on how ease of visa issuance should be a big part when
> considering meeting locations.
>
> Onica
>
> Onica N. Makwakwa
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dorothy g <dgdorothydg at GMAIL.COM>
> To: NCSG-DISCUSS <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
> Sent: Mon, Jun 25, 2018 6:50 pm
> Subject: Re: Elsa Saade as temp alternate to Arsene on GNSO Council
>
> Is it possible for us to document all those who could not attend due to
> visa issues and escalate this concern? We need Africans to be at the table.
>
> best
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Adeel Sadiq <11beeasadiq at seecs.edu.pk>
> wrote:
>
> One part of the bigger picture is, most of the ICANN staff are from
> developed countries who don't face strict visa issues like people from
> developing countries do. I have been denied visa to attend a similar
> conferences (not ICANN though) more than once. I even tried to raise the
> same issue in Public Forum at Copenhagen, but was politically turned down
> with almost a null response by the so-called 'meeting team'. You never
> realize the true measure of a problem unless it is at your personal
> doorstep.
>
> Regards
>
> Adeel
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:12 PM, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is an extremely important point Arsene. There is no justification for
> choosing such a location without making special arrangements.
> Glad at least you can listen in.
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:29 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Elsa, everyone!
>
> It is unfortunate that the gov of Panama could not grant visa on arrival
> while they are aware that their visa process is very complicated.
>
> Think: they only have two consulates in the whole African continent!!!
>
> I hope ICANN Org will be able to negociate things like these beforehand
> when they select host countries.
>
> Thanks Elsa for willing to help and thanks Farzaneh and the EC for working
> out this very quickly!
>
> -----------------
> Arsène Tungali,
> about.me/ArseneTungali
> +243 993810967
> GPG: 523644A0
> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>
> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
>
> On Jun 25, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> It really saddens me that some of us haven't been able to make it because
> of Visa issues. But happy to help and make myself available anytime!
>
> Best,
>
> Elsa
> --
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:31 AM, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So I guess this is a last minute thing given the visa issue. Thank you
> Elsa for stepping in.  When will this discrimination against Africans stop!
> Arsene glad you can listen in and hopefully next time you will not
> encounter this problem.
>
> best
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 1:25 PM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> She still takes on some of my tasks. She was not going to replace me. But
> because we found out last minute that Arsene cannot make it, thought it's
> better to have an alternate for Arsene because this is an important
> meeting.
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:23 AM Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Mrs Chair,
>
> Thanks for the info, but I thought Elsa was going to replace you instead?
> What happened?
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
> ____________________________________
>
> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
> www.africa2point0.org
> linkedin.com/in/farellf
>
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>
> On 24 Jun 2018, at 07:49, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Unfortunately, Arsene cannot make it to Panama. Arsene will be
> participating remotely in the Council meetings but we decided that for an
> in-person presence, Elsa Saade can be his temp alternate.
>
> This was a last minute decision which we had to take because we were still
> hopeful that Arsene could make it.
>
> Will see you and Arsene remotely in virtual meeting rooms.
>
> Best
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> --
>
> Elsa Saade
> Consultant
> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>
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