[proposed comment] Community Travel Support Guidelines
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Ayden,
I believe the opportunity to express concern about the visa process support and make suggestion is in the new proposed fellowship programme document that is open for comment . Perhaps the “elevator pitch” suggested by Caleb can be done there.
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> On Jul 1, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the edits, Caleb-
>
> I will pass the suggestion on to the Policy Committee for its consideration, though I do think it is better to write a letter on this particular issue, as it allows us to address it to the correct recipient. When ICANN org analyses the comments received on this issue, they fill in their template around the questions they have asked, and statements that do not relate to their specific questions are not typically included.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On 1 July 2018 8:11 PM, caleb olumuyiwa <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ayden,
>>
>> How about "The Elevator Pitch" idea as taught by Jim Trengrove at the last NCUC public comment course. It simply means that we are to use every available opportunity to communicate well and pitch your ideas as we might never have such opportunities again.
>>
>> I still think there is an open opportunity for us to give our feedback regarding the visa services.
>>
>> Don't visa problem is a travel related issues. While i have made some observations and comments on the document you might want to revert as they remain suggestions.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Caleb
>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 6:34 PM Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I’m not sure what was covered in the comment writing course earlier this year, but in my opinion an effective comment is one which addresses the questions being asked. I do not think it is appropriate to include issues that are not a part of the proposed guidelines which we are being asked to comment on.
>>>
>>> If there are issues that fall outside the scope of a public comment proceeding, I would suggest these can be addressed separately by writing a letter to ICANN org.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion, of course,
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 19:17, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>> Hey Ayden,
>>>>
>>>> While I agree that venue selection does not fall perfectly in this comment's scope, I think there's space for us to touch upon our feedback regarding the visa services ICANN has been offering lately. Newland Chase staff at times is unable to offer any input in the visa processes within the timeframe or even directs us to governments websites - what is the point of ICANN org hiring a company to bridge community travellers and embassies with regards to visa processes if the company will not do any facilitation, whatsoever.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe there's space to provide feedback on this sense ? That the company hired to help community with visas is often unable to provide the necessary information and do the mediation in the available time.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, thanks for the comment you guys!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bruna
>>>>
>>>> 2018-07-01 14:02 GMT-03:00 Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The consultation is narrow in scope and in our comment we should only address those issues which fall within the purview of the travel support guidelines (this does not include the choice of meeting location).
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ayden
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 18:51, dorothy g <dgdorothydg at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>> I have been through the document. I feel we can reduce the number of words. I also feel it would be useful to start with some principles. e.g effective participation in meeting; avoiding unnecessary stress etc. We should call for consistency in administrative procedures while acknowledging special circumstances linked to developing countries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could we not insert some explicit language on the visa issue we were recently discussing? Something that links it to the choice of host?
>>>>>> best
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for drafting this comment, Ayden. I have read it and i am glad
>>>>>>> it covers many of the ocncerns i too have on the travel guidelines. I
>>>>>>> made one or two comments though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this cna be approved soon and be sent within time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Arsene
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2018-07-01 17:07 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
>>>>>>> > Dear all,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > ICANN org is currently requesting feedback on its proposed updates to the
>>>>>>> > Community Travel Support Guidelines. These guidelines clarify the
>>>>>>> > responsibilities of supported travellers and the duty of care that ICANN org
>>>>>>> > has to us. [The comment documents are
>>>>>>> > here.](https://www.icann.org/public-comments/travel-support-guidelines-2018-05-30-en)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I have prepared a response on behalf of the NCSG. You can find it here:
>>>>>>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FEWgze1lVbMlB5if0EnfZE2BxGreHoQ6SKaj6ya7sZY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Please consider reviewing the proposed comment and sharing feedback either
>>>>>>> > in the Google Doc itself or on this mailing list. The comment window closes
>>>>>>> > on 16 July, so please provide your inputs before 12 July so that the NCSG
>>>>>>> > Policy Committee has time to review them and to finalise the text. We will
>>>>>>> > share the final text on this list prior to submission.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Best wishes,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>
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