Meeting with CEO

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at MAIL.UTORONTO.CA
Thu Aug 16 10:07:04 EEST 2018


Do you have references for the case law James?

Stephanie

On 2018-08-15 13:18, James Gannon wrote:
> I would disagree as would some case law.
> Having been the subject of near interrogation over the same topic I 
> speak from experience.
>
>> On 15 Aug 2018, at 19:10, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mkaranicolas at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree. There is a strong public interest to tracking expenses of 
>> this type. I don't consider the fact that a person has 
>> requested/received an exemption to be particularly sensitive, given 
>> that there's no need to publish any details about the specifics 
>> underlying that exemption (the actual medical information).
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Ayden Férdeline 
>> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     This is a legitimate concern, but it something that can be
>>     managed. Other organisations which publish similar data
>>     (government, grant issuing agencies) have ways of managing this,
>>     which ICANN might be able to learn from.
>>
>>     Ayden
>>
>>
>>>     On 15 Aug 2018, at 16:41, James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
>>>     <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     The concern I know was raised previously is that it can be
>>>     determined who has asked and received a medical exemption from
>>>     the travel and flight policy hence may be considered for those
>>>     people personal information.
>>>
>>>>     On 15 Aug 2018, at 16:19, Ayden Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM
>>>>     <mailto:icann at FERDELINE.COM>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Claire,
>>>>
>>>>     Yes, it is a balancing act, but with the exception of names,
>>>>     the travel report does not directly contain any personal
>>>>     information. It used to have the cost of a flight, for instance
>>>>     - but never the city of departure or any other identifying
>>>>     information. Much like we expect elected representatives in
>>>>     government to disclose their expenses, I think it is reasonable
>>>>     for those who are receiving financial support from ICANN to
>>>>     disclose the extent of this relationship by way of documents
>>>>     like the travel report.
>>>>
>>>>     Best wishes, Ayden
>>>>
>>>>>     On 15 Aug 2018, at 15:03, Claire Craig <claireccraig at GMAIL.COM
>>>>>     <mailto:claireccraig at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Interesting Ayden. We really have to insist on balancing
>>>>>     transparency and privacy otherwise, before we know it
>>>>>     everything could be justified and private hence outside of the
>>>>>     purview of the community.
>>>>>     CCC
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Tue, 14 Aug 2018 at 17:55, Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>     <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Hi Farzi,
>>>>>
>>>>>         While we would certainly like to see ICANN act in a more
>>>>>         privacy-minded fashion, we would also like to see ICANN
>>>>>         remain appropriately transparent and accountable.
>>>>>
>>>>>         It might be worth asking to see the Privacy Impact
>>>>>         Assessment (if any) that ICANN org conducted prior to
>>>>>         redacting the travel reports of all meaningful data. They
>>>>>         are now useless, as the financial information has been
>>>>>         redacted, with ICANN org attributing this change to
>>>>>         “privacy laws.”
>>>>>
>>>>>         Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>>         Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>
>>>>>>         On 14 Aug 2018, at 23:49, farzaneh badii
>>>>>>         <farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM
>>>>>>         <mailto:farzaneh.badii at GMAIL.COM>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Dear members
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         I will have a meeting with the CEO on Friday the 17th.
>>>>>>         The issues that I have in mind to discuss with him are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Unified  Access Model and NCSG perspective. (we had some
>>>>>>         preliminary discussions on the list about it, hopefully,
>>>>>>         we will have some common positions which I can relay on
>>>>>>         Friday.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Cross Community Sessions and dominance of the organizer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         The need to have a more privacy-minded ICANN org and
>>>>>>         community
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         This is quite a full agenda and he would want to also
>>>>>>         talk about issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Please comment on the current issues by tomorrow and let
>>>>>>         me know if you have any other topic you would like to be
>>>>>>         discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Best regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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