[NCUC-DISCUSS] A problem in registration form for ICANN60 Abu Dhabi

Mon Jul 17 11:30:46 EEST 2017

Today I registered for icann60 in Abu Dhabi I did not see or face any
problem in registration and even the word other is not there

On 17 Jul 2017 7:18 p.m., "Adam Ahmat Ahmat Doungous" <
adam.ahmat08 at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a issue we often face in filling the forms everywhere. But it's
> better to talk about it.
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> 2017-07-17 15:19 GMT+02:00 Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>:
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>> Abu Dabi is certainly a question mark for many. But it seems to have been
>> decided and am
>> Wondering why. It have it in UAE before or after ripe meeting
>>
>> Kris
>>
>> > On 17 Jul 2017, at 16:57, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> >> No community, no "problem".
>> >
>> > I'm clearly wrong here. This is something that has to be addressed.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I went back to the transcript to see where I got the idea that
>> > Abu Dhabi coming up had anything to do with this.
>> >
>> >>> HERB WAYE OMBUDS: Yes, thank you, Rafik. Herb Waye. I just want to
>> mention while we're on this call that communication is going to be a
>> critical component to any advancement of the diversity issues. And I raise
>> this point because at Joburg, ICANN 59, there were people registering for
>> registration for Abergavenny opened and there was a diversity question on
>> the application, on the registration for the upcoming ICANN meeting about
>> gender that was ****received negatively***** by certain people that were
>> applying for registration. And ****the question was ultimately removed*****.
>> >
>> > (As I said raw transcripts can be wrong but I would think the next
>> > registration open would be ICANN60, Abu Dhabi.)
>> >
>> > (continues)
>> >
>> > So I think if it had been accompanied by a proper, well-articulated
>> > communication piece about why the question was being asked, it would
>> > have been more positively received. So I believe moving forward for
>> > the Diversity Group, communication is going to be a very important
>> > component in any attempt at incorporating diversity into things like
>> > registrations or surveys or any other attempt at collecting data. So I
>> > just wanted to share that with you, issues that pop up in my domain
>> > regarding diversity from those that are ****offending or feel that
>> > it's inappropriate***. Thank you.
>> >
>> > (**** are mine )
>> >
>> >>> HERB WAYE OMBUDS: Yes, and Herb Waye again here. As I mentioned, it
>> wasn't my office that dealt with it, but it was brought to my attention and
>> resolved rather than create an issue, they simply pulled the question. And
>> I have not had a chance to sit down with the reservation -- registration
>> team to discuss it yet to see if there's an opportunity, but this may be
>> something that if anybody that is  listening in is interested, they can
>> bring it up with, I believe it was Louis Dunkin and his team that dealt
>> with that.
>> >
>> >>> RAFIK DAMMAK: Okay, thanks, Herb. If you find out more information
>> and share the details with us, I think that would be really helpful. And we
>> can see how we can make a recommendation based on that.
>> >
>> > So my point again:
>> > The question is important. There are less females than males
>> > participating in ICANN meetings, especially in developing countries.
>> > It is important to have these numbers and work on improvements.
>> > There should be a 3rd option. People who don't want to answer or want
>> > to answer differently have the right to do so.
>> > This is not something that is negative or offensive in any way.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Em 17/07/2017 05:13, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Renata,
>> >>>
>> >>> my understanding is that is not related to local hosts request. the
>> >>> question is on the registration site which was also used for other
>> ICANN
>> >>> meetings. the ombudsman was not involved directly but heard that
>> concerns
>> >>> were raised to "registration" and/or meeting team. The question is
>> already
>> >>> removed from the page. the ombudsman is going to discuss with
>> registration
>> >>> team to know more.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Rafik
>> >>>
>> >>> 2017-07-17 9:12 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hello
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have just read the raw transcript of the last WS2-Diversity meeting
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Meeting page
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=66089058
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Raw transcript
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66089058/DI
>> VERSITY%20SUBGROUP%20MEETING%20_07132017-FINAL-en.pdf?
>> version=1&modificationDate=1500220959000&api=v2
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The raw transcript means it is the 1st form of the transcript, no
>> >>>> corrections
>> >>>>
>> >>>> But what I read made me caught my attention enough to share this on
>> the
>> >>>> lists
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Especially giving the discussion about reviewing where meetings
>> happen
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apparently there was a "concern" with registration to ICANN60 because
>> >>>> "a form" presented the follow question and options of response
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gender:  Male/Female/Other
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The "other" option raised the "concern" and ombudsman brought up that
>> >>>> this was the theme of a conversation w/ local organization
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So what would happen if ICANN had, let's say, a number of
>> >>>> registrations of "Other" ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Would this be theme for other conversations between ombudsman and
>> >>>> local organizers?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are there any data collected by registration form that would cause
>> >>>> "concern" to local organizers?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And sorry about the extensive use of quote marks. The words are a bit
>> >>>> surprising and I tried to soften the blow.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Renata
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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