[NCUC-DISCUSS] A problem in registration form for ICANN60 Abu Dhabi

Mon Jul 17 11:16:24 EEST 2017

This is a issue we often face in filling the forms everywhere. But it's
better to talk about it.

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2017-07-17 15:19 GMT+02:00 Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com>:

> Abu Dabi is certainly a question mark for many. But it seems to have been
> decided and am
> Wondering why. It have it in UAE before or after ripe meeting
>
> Kris
>
> > On 17 Jul 2017, at 16:57, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >> No community, no "problem".
> >
> > I'm clearly wrong here. This is something that has to be addressed.
> >
> > Anyway, I went back to the transcript to see where I got the idea that
> > Abu Dhabi coming up had anything to do with this.
> >
> >>> HERB WAYE OMBUDS: Yes, thank you, Rafik. Herb Waye. I just want to
> mention while we're on this call that communication is going to be a
> critical component to any advancement of the diversity issues. And I raise
> this point because at Joburg, ICANN 59, there were people registering for
> registration for Abergavenny opened and there was a diversity question on
> the application, on the registration for the upcoming ICANN meeting about
> gender that was ****received negatively***** by certain people that were
> applying for registration. And ****the question was ultimately removed*****.
> >
> > (As I said raw transcripts can be wrong but I would think the next
> > registration open would be ICANN60, Abu Dhabi.)
> >
> > (continues)
> >
> > So I think if it had been accompanied by a proper, well-articulated
> > communication piece about why the question was being asked, it would
> > have been more positively received. So I believe moving forward for
> > the Diversity Group, communication is going to be a very important
> > component in any attempt at incorporating diversity into things like
> > registrations or surveys or any other attempt at collecting data. So I
> > just wanted to share that with you, issues that pop up in my domain
> > regarding diversity from those that are ****offending or feel that
> > it's inappropriate***. Thank you.
> >
> > (**** are mine )
> >
> >>> HERB WAYE OMBUDS: Yes, and Herb Waye again here. As I mentioned, it
> wasn't my office that dealt with it, but it was brought to my attention and
> resolved rather than create an issue, they simply pulled the question. And
> I have not had a chance to sit down with the reservation -- registration
> team to discuss it yet to see if there's an opportunity, but this may be
> something that if anybody that is  listening in is interested, they can
> bring it up with, I believe it was Louis Dunkin and his team that dealt
> with that.
> >
> >>> RAFIK DAMMAK: Okay, thanks, Herb. If you find out more information and
> share the details with us, I think that would be really helpful. And we can
> see how we can make a recommendation based on that.
> >
> > So my point again:
> > The question is important. There are less females than males
> > participating in ICANN meetings, especially in developing countries.
> > It is important to have these numbers and work on improvements.
> > There should be a 3rd option. People who don't want to answer or want
> > to answer differently have the right to do so.
> > This is not something that is negative or offensive in any way.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Em 17/07/2017 05:13, "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Renata,
> >>>
> >>> my understanding is that is not related to local hosts request. the
> >>> question is on the registration site which was also used for other
> ICANN
> >>> meetings. the ombudsman was not involved directly but heard that
> concerns
> >>> were raised to "registration" and/or meeting team. The question is
> already
> >>> removed from the page. the ombudsman is going to discuss with
> registration
> >>> team to know more.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Rafik
> >>>
> >>> 2017-07-17 9:12 GMT+09:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello
> >>>>
> >>>> I have just read the raw transcript of the last WS2-Diversity meeting
> >>>>
> >>>> Meeting page
> >>>>
> >>>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=66089058
> >>>>
> >>>> Raw transcript
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66089058/
> DIVERSITY%20SUBGROUP%20MEETING%20_07132017-FINAL-en.pdf?version=1&
> modificationDate=1500220959000&api=v2
> >>>>
> >>>> The raw transcript means it is the 1st form of the transcript, no
> >>>> corrections
> >>>>
> >>>> But what I read made me caught my attention enough to share this on
> the
> >>>> lists
> >>>>
> >>>> Especially giving the discussion about reviewing where meetings happen
> >>>>
> >>>> Apparently there was a "concern" with registration to ICANN60 because
> >>>> "a form" presented the follow question and options of response
> >>>>
> >>>> Gender:  Male/Female/Other
> >>>>
> >>>> The "other" option raised the "concern" and ombudsman brought up that
> >>>> this was the theme of a conversation w/ local organization
> >>>>
> >>>> So what would happen if ICANN had, let's say, a number of
> >>>> registrations of "Other" ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would this be theme for other conversations between ombudsman and
> >>>> local organizers?
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there any data collected by registration form that would cause
> >>>> "concern" to local organizers?
> >>>>
> >>>> And sorry about the extensive use of quote marks. The words are a bit
> >>>> surprising and I tried to soften the blow.
> >>>>
> >>>> Renata
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>
> >>>
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