Requirements for information about speakers and participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi

Sun Jul 2 07:43:51 EEST 2017

You will be surprised, Abu Dhabi may become the best ICANN meeting ever!
things may not be as scary as they are made to look/sound like; Almost
every foreigner who visits my dear country Nigeria after hearing all the
scary stuff gives a positive feedback. ;-)

Regards
PS: For anyone involved in RIR related stuff, next AFRINIC meeting will be
holding in Nigeria (Lagos) sometime in November. Looking to see some of you
there.

On Jul 2, 2017 1:10 PM, "Kris Seeburn" <seeburn.k at gmail.com> wrote:

> This makes logical sense. Wonder why we are forcing this location at this
> time.
>
> On Jul 2, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at MAIL.
> UTORONTO.CA> wrote:
>
> I am behind on this thread.  Lots of women and folks with LGBTQ concerns
> don't want to go to Abu Dhabi.  Has there been any thought of arranging a
> satellite conference for those who don't want to /can't fly to AD for
> safety, comfort,  or visa reasons? I think we might get quite a few
> participants in such a satellite conference, and we could hold it somewhere
> safe and easy to get to, with really good conferencing facilities.  Just a
> thought.
>
> Stephanie
>
> On 2017-06-29 08:25, Michael Karanicolas wrote:
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> I don't think anyone is trying to question your commitment to human rights
> - I'm certainly not.
>
> I don't know your CV in detail, but I can tell you mine involves
> coordinating human rights advocacy projects in Afghanistan, Palestine,
> Jordan, Indonesia, Myanmar, Kazakhstan, Pakistan and the Maldives, among
> other high pressure spots. I understand very well the entitlement/privilege
> of which you speak, and I never forget that at the end of the day, I get on
> a plane and fly out, while the local activists are the ones who have to
> deal with the fallout of the work. However, if we're talking about the
> people that are on the front lines, we don't do them any favours by staying
> silent. Indeed, often the best protection they have is international
> publicity. I've had these conversations a lot with people in high risk
> areas, and I can't recall ever being told to dial things back, except where
> that was part of a broader advocacy strategy (like, to protect ongoing
> backchannel discussions).
>
> That said, I'm not proposing arranging special sessions to discuss the
> country's human rights record, since this seems quite tangential to what
> we're supposed to be engaging on as part of the ICANN process. But I also
> don't think we should commit to keeping silent on this issue as individuals
> and, if the subject comes up, potentially as a stakeholder group. Perhaps
> we don't disagree on that? In either case, I would very much welcome inputs
> of colleagues that are in country, or active across the region.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>> Let me make it clear. My position is based on the risk that in most cases
>> "in country ICANN constituency human rights activities" during conferences
>> will put national groups and peoples at risk.
>> This is different, and separate from, more generic ICANN discussions of
>> the relationship between protecting human rights and the security and
>> stability of the DNS system (ICANN's remit).
>>
>> As someone individually who has championed human rights for over half a
>> century, been tear gassed and shot at, I am firmly in the camp of human
>> rights activists.
>> If the NCSG consensus position is to either treat such activities as
>> within ICANN's remit (some might challenge that), or if delegates wish to
>> arrange "rump sessions"
>> dealing with country specific human issues, I would press for prior full
>> consultation and endorsement by the local groups who would be engaged in
>> the events.
>> This would be more that just scheduling sessions and inviting local
>> groups to participate.
>>
>> My core concern is that ICANN constituency members should not use their
>> entitlement (temporary presence under the ICANN banner) to put highly
>> exposed local activists at risk.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>> On 6/29/2017 6:40 AM, James Gannon wrote:
>>
>>
>> I
>> would go so far as to recommend that for countries with human rights
>> issues, digital or otherwise, if and when ICANN reaches what it
>> considers as a satisfactory arrangement, there is an understanding that
>> during the event none of ICANN’s constituency groups will publicly, or
>> in collaboration with local groups, engage in activities that challenge
>> human rights record and policies of the local government.
>>
>> Hey Sam,
>>
>> This would fly in the face of most if not the vast majority of NCUCs
>> mission and outreach, these are the groups and peoples that we say we are
>> here to engage with and support and advocate for.
>>
>>
>> -James
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>> *From:* NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
>> <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on behalf of Sam Lanfranco
>> <lanfran at YORKU.CA> <lanfran at YORKU.CA>
>> *Sent:* 28 June 2017 23:13:35
>> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> *Subject:* Re: Requirements for information about speakers and
>> participants for ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi
>>
>> Constituency Colleagues,
>>
>> The subject of human rights and, in particular, the rights of digital
>> citizenship in countries hosting ICANN meetings, is both the elephant
>> and the gorilla (the unspoken issues) in ICANN Conference venue
>> discussions.  Without going into specifics, in the past several years
>> ICANN has held its conferences in countries where, while ICANN was
>> meeting, governments were exercising extreme control over their
>> citizenry’s access to the Internet and cell phone service.
>>
>> What is absolutely clear is that ICANN should have venue criteria that
>> are sensitive to these issues, and these are issues that should be
>> raised in all ICANN venue selection discussions.
>>
>> What is also absolutely clear is that such issues should be raised and
>> addressed prior to the selection of a venue. The subsequent ICANN event
>> should not be used as a platform for raising country specific issues. I
>> would go so far as to recommend that for countries with human rights
>> issues, digital or otherwise, if and when ICANN reaches what it
>> considers as a satisfactory arrangement, there is an understanding that
>> during the event none of ICANN’s constituency groups will publicly, or
>> in collaboration with local groups, engage in activities that challenge
>> human rights record and policies of the local government.
>>
>> This is not because governments should not be challenged on their
>> record, and it is not because local groups should not be supported. It
>> is also not just because these issues should be sorted out prior to
>> venue selection. It is because delegates to ICANN meetings are in a
>> privileged position, and while public displays would probably not put
>> delegates at risk, they would put local collaborators at risk,
>> especially after ICANN has left the scene.
>>
>> Sam Lanfranco
>>
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>> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
>> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
>> email: Lanfran at Yorku.ca   Skype: slanfranco
>> blog:  https://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
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