Update request on Auction proceeds drafting team
avri doria
avri at ACM.ORG
Sun Jul 31 17:35:34 EEST 2016
Hi,
NCSG has been trying to get the Board to deal with the issue early for
years. At least a year before there was any money collected from
auctions we demanded, to the extent we can demand anything, that we
start the process of figuring out what to do before anyone had the money
in their hot hands. This was always rejected because we could not prove
that there would be any money or what order of magnitude could be expected.
Oh well.
For what it is worth, I have long supported an endowment with a well
formed multistakeholder committee to judge applications for ways in
which the monies could be used within ICANN's mission and public purposes.
avri
On 31-Jul-16 15:21, Paul Rosenzweig wrote:
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> That is such a great idea Sam – so good that I completely understand
> why it has been rejected. J Never do what is right in the long-run
> if it means you can’t profit in the short-term!
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> *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] *On Behalf
> Of *Sam Lanfranco
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:18 AM
> *To:* NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: Update request on Auction proceeds drafting team
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> Earlier, when the sum was more modest I and others suggested that it
> should be placed in an endowment for continuous use over time, and not
> be treated as a one opportunity windfall. An endowment with a charter,
> a terms-of-reference, and an independent funding committee bound by
> the charter and terms of reference could produce good long term
> results. There was not much support for the idea at that time. Too
> many hands that want to dip into the pot now, that seems to be the
> challenge.
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> Sam L, NPOC/CSIH
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> On 2016-07-31 4:27 AM, Michael Oghia wrote:
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> /"//Given how much money is at stake, that these proceeds are set
> to increase further (with the auctions for .hotel, .inc, .mail.,
> .llc etc), and how transformative these funds could be if suitably
> allocated, I think we should be highly involved in this process so
> that its allocation is more community-driven."/
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> +10!
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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Ayden Férdeline
> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
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> Regardless of what the auction fee might have been, my point
> was more that we are now sitting on a quarter of a billion
> dollars, and I distinctly remember in Helsinki the GAC
> floating the possibility of this money being used to fund
> their independent secretariat. That's certainly a very
> understandable objective, from their perspective.
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>
>
> I'm curious as to what the New gTLD Auction Proceeds Drafting
> Team is up to, and how their work differs from that of the
> Cross-Community Working Group on New gTLD Auction Proceeds
> Drafting Team (is it superseding the former?). When I looked
> at the membership for the former, I see there are 18 community
> members and 16 staff on the working group. That seems a little
> disproportionate to me.
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>
>
> Given how much money is at stake, that these proceeds are set
> to increase further (with the auctions for .hotel, .inc,
> .mail., .llc etc), and how transformative these funds could be
> if suitably allocated, I think we should be highly involved in
> this process so that its allocation is more community-driven.
> I'm happy to put my hand up and to volunteer here. I have no
> doubt that there's a piece of the puzzle that I'm missing (is
> WG membership restricted?), as I will be the first to admit I
> am new to this community, so if I am mistaken and these funds
> are in safe hands... let me know. But if we are stretched and
> not as involved in monitoring the progress of these working
> groups as we may like to be, please let me know how I can
> help. Thanks!
>
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> - Ayden
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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 3:02 PM, James Gannon
> james at cyberinvasion.net <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
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> Power Auctions gets 4% I believe.
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> *From: *NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>> on behalf of Ayden
> Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM <mailto:icann at FERDELINE.COM>>
> *Reply-To: *Ayden Férdeline <icann at FERDELINE.COM
> <mailto:icann at FERDELINE.COM>>
> *Date: *Friday 29 July 2016 at 06:45
> *To: *"NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>"
> <NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>>
> *Subject: *Re: Update request on Auction proceeds drafting
> team
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> What are the costs you're talking about? Looking at past
> auction proceeds
> <https://links9.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/jAOjQGVrCV1bw6Aby?messageId=CzRzo0ZHvRMiBWE8l&rn=IyUTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI>,
> the auctioneer Power Auctions LLC doesn't appear to be
> taking a cut of more than 0.25%. Which would suggest ICANN
> is getting at least $130 million here. I might be
> mistaken, however! Happy to be corrected if so.
>
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> - Ayden
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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 2:36 PM, McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
> <mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
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> the auctioneer gets a chunk of that 135M, can't recall
> the % tho, but ICANN doesn't get the full 135M.
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> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Ayden Férdeline
> <icann at ferdeline.com <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
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> The sale of .web
> <https://links7.mixmaxusercontent.com/aMjjKHWxnLSD3SEwj/l/T0OpEIvqWnraGDrCW?messageId=RlGMDDqfOu62wVLdf&rn=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI&re=gI1RWZuIXez5idyV2c0NXasB0UTV1QTlERtc0UD5kI>
> has boosted the auction fund by another US$135
> million. There has to be at least $250 million in
> there now, if not more? It would be great to hear
> from our colleagues on the New gTLD Auction
> Proceeds Drafting Team as to where in their work
> plan they are at. These funds could be truly
> transformative for different stakeholder groups
> and projects if suitably allocated…
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> Thanks,
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> Ayden
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> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 5:36 PM, James Gannon
> james at cyberinvasion.net
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net> wrote:
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> Auction reserve fund stands at a little over
> 100m USD as of today.
>
> Klaus and Olivie are our two reps from NCSG.
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>
> -jg
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> *From: *Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>>
> *Date: *Monday 13 June 2016 at 15:26
> *To: *James Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net
> <mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>
> *Cc: *"NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
> <mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu>"
> <NCSG-DISCUSS at listserv.syr.edu
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> *Subject: *Re: Update request on Auction
> proceeds drafting team
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> Hi James,
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>
> Thanks for raising awareness of this. I am
> very interested in the outcome of this topic
> as well, as I understand there is at least
> $60m in funds currently on hand from auction
> proceeds (a figure inevitably going to grow).
> I need not mention how transformative this
> could be for different stakeholder groups and
> projects if suitably allocated. Who is
> representing the NCSG on the drafting team for
> this exceptional situation?
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> Best wishes,
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> Ayden
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> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 3:07 PM, James Gannon
> james at CYBERINVASION.NET
> <mailto:james at CYBERINVASION.NET> wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Can our reps to the Auction Proceeds
> drafting team provide us with an update on
> the work of the group?
>
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=58728193
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> This is critical work and I want to make
> sure we are giving sufficient input into
> this process.
>
> -James
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> Ayden Férdeline
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> McTim
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> Ayden Férdeline
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